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If you can find a better term for it - great. I personally think the definition is simple. If it is purchased raw it is a real food. If someone else applied a process to it first it is not. It is fully accepted that even real food is currently tainted by farming methods, but one has to...

I don't think this is necessarily inconsistent with the theory that the individuals concerned can still have too much background insulin ( i.e. hyperglycaemia.) If you look at the first graph - the non diabetics, you will see that after the first and second spikes you see that non diabetic...

Can you point me to where they say producing " no insulin " or hardly any ? are they only recruiting people who are already injected insulin dependent who have been proven to have a failed pancreas through actual testing? All of the Kraft curves illustrate a degree of first phase failure...

In practical terms, the food insulin index pretty much accords with the foods list of a ketogenic diet, or an LC HF diet where the FII really comes into its own is : It shows that processed food create a bigger insulin load than real foods even when the same foods are involved - through I...

Generally speaking people with diabetes will produce way too much insulin, just that like an alcoholic needs ever more alcohol, so does a diabetic need more insulin to do the same job. Eventually we are producing so much insulin that the system explodes and we can't produce anymore. The kraft...

If you go to the research paper , press table 1, a list of foods should appear ( 122 ) mainly processed foods, the list looks like it goes to the GI and stops. At the top on the right is a little arrow, if you press that then the list opens out to give the FII as well. Aunt Jemima waffle...

This may all be connected somehow to the concept that in the presence of high insulin the human body converts 10x as much carb into fructose as it would otherwise - hence fatty livers,visceral fat etc and why even real food carbs get to be the bad guy once you already have high insulin and T2...

http://www.mendosa.com/blog/?p=3624 this is an interesting blog on the subject because it gies some examples of processed foods compared to natural foods and what happens with low fat foods -where the insulin index score is much higher than the glycaemic load.

Well that is what it was designed to do ! so lets hope so!

My own doctor responded in exactly the same way when I asked for one. he also suggested on diagnosis that I needed to go onto insulin injections. So he wanted to give me more insulin. My own fasting insulin score was still 20 six months after I had begun LCHF , after I had already lost...

I agree wholeheartedly. It's a more complete measure. For example identifying the difference between whole milk ( low) and skimmed milk ( high ) . Hyperinsulinaemia (high insulin ) is connected to practically every disease on the planet, so explaining how to help people get their own...

Day 14 of the Low Insulin Diet (starting weight 91.6 kg, current 84.3 kg ) Waist size 86.5 cm (starting 94 cm) 0.3 kg off yesterday bp 122/76 . average BG yesterday 5.4 , overnight average today 4.9 morning blood ketones 1.2 Ketonix 11 ppm A bit of a kerfuffle yesterday interrupted dinner...

I don't recall doing a fancy graph on the subject. If you think the analysis is superficial, you are quite welcome to ignore it and indeed the entire thread :) My point we merely that omega 6 oils are everywhere, even in places you might least expect - e.g. tinned fatty fish.

Yes thanks - and certainly your thoughts are worth passing onto him. I think for most foods, its easy for people to go to an extreme thinking if x is good then more of x must be better.

I agree entirely that its ropey, Having said that - he's an active guy, the foods did come out at around 65% fat overall so on the surface it "looked "like the LCHF he has now read a lot about. His doctor told him sardines were a good thing so he had no idea what he was doing was too much...

Well If I could you would be very welcome in my queue - ........ (I'm the first on the list lol) Ultimately M is sorting himself out , very bravely and its amazing that he has managed to get off insulin after 14 years. He's doing a marvellous job, my role is only to try and look into why...

I chose 4pm because it was the earliest time I be sure my morning liver dump has gone so by isolating it to eating after that I don't get the liver dump and food responses mixed up on my libre . My thinking is that by doing that I will be able to see over time if the liver dump is getting less...

Olive oil is much better than sunflower oil - so yes !

Thanks for that. I will find out but the problem has been the other way round and an inflamed colon .

Overall they look ok to me. I do find though that peas really do spike me, you may find it you switched the peas for something else, eg broccoli, you would get an even lower reading at one hour.