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Well, I think it's quite right that people post warnings from time to time. Certainly if a newly diagnosed person who had not had the time to educate themselves fully went onto this diet with their liver full of metformin, they would faint and quite possibly die. I had a funny turn once at the...

The lead author of the study stated that the same results would be achieved through any kind of weight loss plan. I assume that he takes it as a given that reducing one's weight to optimum BMI will also restore the fat content of the liver and pancreas to normal. I am inclined to agree with him...

Thus spake Nigel. So, Nigel. Did you read the report? [mod edit: could be seen as antagonistic]

Sorry

Okay.

Sing us a song, you're the pianoman... sing us a song tonight... 'coz we're all in the mood for a melody... and you've got us feelin' alright.

Metformin inhibits glucose production in the liver. So doing a vlc diet while still taking metformin is a recipe for hypoglycemia. That leads to coma and death. So it's a no-brainer. You stop taking metformin at least one week before doing the diet.

Re: DAY 9 Thanks cherub, but I have virtually zero confidence in psychology, and I certainly have no money to pay for it. In terms of emotional support, I have very little unfortunately. I live in South Korea so my pool of friends here is very very small indeed. This forum is my only help.

Well much of the fat loss is permanent. I would have to go into calorie surplus again for a couple of weeks to get back to where I started, and I don't think that's going to happen. I go back to the diet and the fat loss continues, though I might have to go through 'induction phase' again with...

That's overkill. If people would kindly avoid their high-horse, we'll all be fine.

It was a self-destruct. I just learned a good friend of mine is dying of cancer. I'm visiting him tomorrow. Unfortunately, today and tomorrow will be lost days. Thanks viv! I'm not giving up... but I'm in pause mode right now.

No, but he should be. He has something that is a pathetic failing in most moderators... EMPATHY. He's not telling people, he's asking them. He's being supportive of ME on MY thread. And yes, he DOES have the right to do that. It's called freedom of expression.

That sounds pedantic. Next time you post something, try to make it positive and encouraging.

Ignore 'em Patch m8. They're all [mod edit: personal comment]. The way this has been edited might lead some to think I had posted a four letter word. I didn't. The word I used was 'sheep'.

DAY 10 Wife and baby came home today after an absence of six weeks. SOOOOO good to see them. So I had a meal with them, of course. Today I probably put away 1500 calories or some such. Tomorrow I'm back on the wagon.

DAY 9 Oooops! Big ooooops! A certain emotional disturbance knocked me off the wagon. In fact, I kind of plunged head first off the wagon. Went to McDonald's where a big mac went down very nicely. Then off to Tesco's for a toblerone. Then two baked potatoes with butter, sweetcorn, tuna and...

Could hardly get to sleep last night thinking about big Macs.

Yes, I'm not following herbalife strictly. I don't care. I'm in charge. In any case, the original study used optifast not herbalife. The main thing is that I am restricting my calorie intake to 600-800 cals per day. Not at this stage, no. The only test that really matters is the oral glucose...

Yes, I agree too. In the report, he actually states clearly that they assume it is the 'sudden' calorie restriction which defatizes the pancreas and liver, leading to restoration of insulin secretion.

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