CornishKate
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 66
- Type of diabetes
- LADA
- Treatment type
- Insulin
Hi everyone, I was diagnosed ‘probably’ T2 by my GP 3 weeks ago and started 500mg Metformin for 2 weeks and then doubled them a week ago. GP made me an app with the practice diabetic nurse for the 12th of April and basically said in the meantime cut back sugar, carbs and dairy! I’d already lost a few pounds on diagnosis and have since lost probably another 4lb (I have no weight to lose) My symptoms have improved only about 10%. My nighttime dry mouth is now much worse and the morning fatigue and heart racing hasn’t improved, although this generally goes with breakfast and a tablet. I’m thinking of ringing the GP in the morning or am I expecting too much too soon? Any help appreciated! Julie
Welcome to the forums @Mrs Allport ,
Do you know what your current blood glucose levels are?
Edited:- If you have uncontrolled weight loss and dry mouth, are you also weeing more frequently than normal?
I'll ask @daisy1 to give you some info.
Obviously, we can't give you direct medical advise, but I'll make a few points with the info you have given us:
"Probably" seems a standard caveat on initial diagnosis as diabetes is rarely a clear-cut thing. Over the course of your next few appointments, it will become more solid (or possibly even change).
GPs are notoriously behind on diabetes training (I have a friend who is a GP and she's just done a refresher course some 20 years after leaving medical school). Nutritionally, if it is diabetes, then your target is to lower the glycemic index of what you eat, because that relates to the amount of glucose you will produce (and how fast). As you cannot metabolise glucose quickly enough, you need to spread out the time of which your intestines will take glucose from food and into your blood.
Low glycemic means: as little as possible sugars (including processed and fruit sugars) and simple starches (wheat, starchy root vegetables). The more complex the carbohydrates in your food, the longer it takes to break down to glucose. Fats don't really have a bearing on this. The reason doctors will often ask you to cut down on them is because there is still a camp of nutritionalists who link dietary fat to poor blood lipid profiles and therefore the risk of cardiovascular disease. However, there is an increasing body of evidential study to suggest that such a link may not be strong or exist at all, and that the fats in dairy are actually pretty good for cholesterol profile. However, that's a debate best left to somewhere else.
In the meantime, certainly keep off the sugars, have a little patience and most importantly, be firm and open with your GP. Oh, and make sure to do lots of your own research. Good luck!
No the doctor didn’t measure that, he just said the blood test was 90 and anything over 48 is diabetes. Only peeing overnight again, but daytime is normal.
Ok so if you're getting up to pee at night then I'm thinking there's a risk that you may even be a late onset Type 1 (like me!).
Your previous blood test was probably an Hba1C test that was sent to the hospital lab? If so, your numbers were/are pretty high. (or was it the result of an instant finger prick test?)
I don't think it would hurt to have a word with your doc about the continuing weight loss, they may want to test your urine for ketones which would be another piece of the picture.
No the doctor didn’t measure that, he just said the blood test was 90 and anything over 48 is diabetes. Only peeing overnight again, but daytime is normal.
Well, a Diabetes Specialist Nurse deals with the subject day in, day out. GPs don't.Thank you! A few people have said the same thing to me about the diabetic nurse being much more informed than the GP.
Hi, yes this was a blood test sent to the hospital. I’m assuming the nurse will do a thumb test when I see her next week? Thanks for your reply.
Even non diabetics get up to pee in the night sometimes, I don't think it is a particular symptom of Type 1.Ok so if you're getting up to pee at night then I'm thinking there's a risk that you may even be a late onset Type 1 (like me!).
Even non diabetics get up to pee in the night sometimes, I don't think it is a particular symptom of Type 1.
If that 90 was the result of an HbA1c test, and it does seem to be, then there is no "probability" about it. You are diabetic. As you were told, 48 and above is diabetic. You will be better seeing the nurse than the GP. This is the most usual approach as GPs don't have time or the expertise to look after us all. Nurses have more knowledge about diabetes, although you may receive some typical NHS dietary advice about eating carbs with every meal and low fat, which you will come to learn is very inappropriate for a Type 2 diabetic.
If you suspect your symptoms are more likely to show Type 1 than type 2, then you need to discuss all this with the nurse, and it may be wise to get an earlier appointment with either her or your GP. These things can escalate very quickly. If you start to feel ill, you need urgent medical attention and plenty of water.
Well, a Diabetes Specialist Nurse deals with the subject day in, day out. GPs don't.
Did your GP say what they had tested? I presume they told you your instant blood glucose level? Did they also say if they had checked 'ketone' levels (either from blood or a urine sample)? And did they take blood to be sent off for testing?
Hopefully your GP has made the correct diagnosis. But if you start feeling unwell then please seek medical assistance - do not wait for the appointment.
The whole carb thing really confuses me!? I have switched rice and pasta to brown and already ate brown bread. Help?!My Hba1c was 91 at diagnosis, but I was lucky and by cutting out all those 'healthy' carbs my numbers dropped rapidly.
I don't take any notice of the advice I got to eat complex carbs - I happen to know that the complex carbs are digested by my saliva and become sugars - I did Biology and the other sciences at school and the starch to sugar experiment was one of the first ones we did - age eleven.
If you cut or the sugars and starches in the densely carbohydrate foods, concentrate on the foods which are under 11 percent carbs, then you'll at least have a chance to drop your BG levels and maybe get a good night's sleep.
I'm afraid that you are still eating carbs - the colour doesn't matter carbs become sugars and float round in your blood as you can't process them.The whole carb thing really confuses me!? I have switched rice and pasta to brown and already ate brown bread. Help?!
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?