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<blockquote data-quote="NewdestinyX" data-source="post: 201979" data-attributes="member: 35544"><p>The most compelling aspect of this study to me, though way too small to really be taken seriously, is that it refers to the fat around ORGANS being dispelled in the 8 week period and that at least for several more 'months' the diabetic T2 symptoms did NOT return. That angle I really hadn't heard of before. Whether or not a 'crash' diet, essentially, is the best way to get to this goal we'll continue to debate, to be sure - but ANY road we can take to 'de-fat-izing' our organs seems to have some lasting effects. And THAT IS new data and something NOT to be taken lightly.</p><p></p><p>We're told by reputable sources that 80% of T2's are obese at DX.. And 20% (skinny diabetics) are not. So we can conclude a couple of things - though very carefully. We can conclude that 'obesity', more specifically belly fat, is a potential 'trigger' to T2 -- but not for all.. Why not? Well -- we don't know yet. I think most of us also acknowledge genes as part of this equation too. So for those who have the genetic predisposition - was they way 'we ate' part of our trigger? Some like consider the obesity a 'symptom' and not a cause. That's less logical to me - but if it's true -- WHAT A relief!! </p><p></p><p>What this small study again reinforces is that 'eating style' -- is IN this equation and in a grander way than just how many carbs you eat. After two years at this -- though nuts are a safe food for most diabetics - I can tell you for 100% sure -- that if you eat too many of them - you'll gain weight - just as readily as you would eating cakes and cookies. </p><p></p><p>Well I could run in 100 different directions here -- That 80% group I was mentioning are also the group from which the only people I've ever met who've 'sent their T2 into remission - have come. Yes, I mean 'full remission' - eat anything they want with no spikes and return to fasting levels within 1-2 hours. They were obese -- aren't any longer and boom - back to normal.. Their pancreas can 'deal with anything'. One person -- took the test too far and gained 30lbs -- the diabetes symptoms returned.. So for some -- obesity is a more 1:1 correlation than with others.</p><p></p><p>But this 'fat around the organs things' --- very intriguing........</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NewdestinyX, post: 201979, member: 35544"] The most compelling aspect of this study to me, though way too small to really be taken seriously, is that it refers to the fat around ORGANS being dispelled in the 8 week period and that at least for several more 'months' the diabetic T2 symptoms did NOT return. That angle I really hadn't heard of before. Whether or not a 'crash' diet, essentially, is the best way to get to this goal we'll continue to debate, to be sure - but ANY road we can take to 'de-fat-izing' our organs seems to have some lasting effects. And THAT IS new data and something NOT to be taken lightly. We're told by reputable sources that 80% of T2's are obese at DX.. And 20% (skinny diabetics) are not. So we can conclude a couple of things - though very carefully. We can conclude that 'obesity', more specifically belly fat, is a potential 'trigger' to T2 -- but not for all.. Why not? Well -- we don't know yet. I think most of us also acknowledge genes as part of this equation too. So for those who have the genetic predisposition - was they way 'we ate' part of our trigger? Some like consider the obesity a 'symptom' and not a cause. That's less logical to me - but if it's true -- WHAT A relief!! What this small study again reinforces is that 'eating style' -- is IN this equation and in a grander way than just how many carbs you eat. After two years at this -- though nuts are a safe food for most diabetics - I can tell you for 100% sure -- that if you eat too many of them - you'll gain weight - just as readily as you would eating cakes and cookies. Well I could run in 100 different directions here -- That 80% group I was mentioning are also the group from which the only people I've ever met who've 'sent their T2 into remission - have come. Yes, I mean 'full remission' - eat anything they want with no spikes and return to fasting levels within 1-2 hours. They were obese -- aren't any longer and boom - back to normal.. Their pancreas can 'deal with anything'. One person -- took the test too far and gained 30lbs -- the diabetes symptoms returned.. So for some -- obesity is a more 1:1 correlation than with others. But this 'fat around the organs things' --- very intriguing........ [/QUOTE]
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