Happy Birthday!!!!Gardening, weeding, planting, pruning, so upside down I have indigestion ! 3 hours later, cleaning shower and spa, and no asthma from cleaner!
Then, blew it all and ate wrong things, anxiety per usual, but I'll try again tomorrow and rereading the positives on this blog, and behave myself with food, suppose I could be excused for eating junk on my birthday, but, well, me bad, but determined to keep going!
I think with running (which doesn't have to be sprinting!) you are more on the balls of the feet and with less contact with the ground; jogging tends to be more of a flat-footed action and at each step you have your whole weight jarring down through your knee. Is there a sports physio around who can explain it better - or contradict me completely, this is just my impression.
Massive massive panic attack and threw up and it was blood streaked so took myself off to a and e. They were lovely and went out of way to make me feel calmer and to try and help sort out my underlying anxiety which is more than the psychiatric service have been doing, though to give them their due they did write to me yesterday to say they know they haven't written to me but they will be eventually and to see my GP in meantime who will say but that isn't my job that's the job of the team I've referred you to.. Feeling fragile still but the fact by BP was heaps better than in the surgery despite being in a hospital setting means I may be able to avoid BP meds.( I get white coat syndrome )
Today I've done 25 mins on bike and ten minutes Pilates and stretching stuff.
I find this really interesting. Do males and females use food differently in this way? There is certainly, it appears to me, a difference in the way we use the forum.I am beginning to wonder if, for many of the women on hére, myself included, that is one of the reasons we've ended up as overweight T2s? Far easier to comfort oneself with food than to face up to issues of low self -esteem, emotional and physical hurt etc.
Anyway onwards and downwards xx
Thank you, Bebo321
I am not that chuffed really, as it is such a struggle at the moment to actually make up the 30 minutes. I would love to be able to keep moving for the full 30 mins, but for now that is not going to happen. So I will have to be satisfied with what I am able to do.
I am not sure I am feeling fitter, unless I compare how I was at the start of the challenge to how I am now. At the start I had had over a year being very dependent on others, due to having two surgical operations, in the space of a year, on my abdomen that had been rather traumatic. So my exercise had been almost zero for too long. Immediately prior to that, I had been exercising in water for at least an hour at a time, five times a week. I have perhaps tried too hard to get back to that level too quickly, and set myself back. A lesson painfully (physically and mentally) learned, that we need to listen to our bodies and take note, and act accordingly. I had a little demon in my head telling me to exercise for an hour a day, or be dead for 24 hours a day, which is far too extreme, even though I get the message to move more.
Prior to becoming disabled in an accident 20 odd years ago, I was very active, would drop the kids at school, then go and swim a mile or so before work. Would walk in Lakeland fells, swim in lakes rivers and sea, run, dance, gymnastics. Happy days! Now apart from the water based stuff, I won't be doing all the other activities. I have to admit that I feel envious when my husband and family go off to do these activities, even though I encourage them to go without me. Even something simple as a day out to the park is often not achievable for me. Despite,hopefully, conquering my T2, I have other degenerative conditions, including a rare, incurable blood disorder, that wicked Mother Nature has designed to be exacerbated by strenuous exercise. Not looking for a pity party here, though. I guess I just got old and infirm earlier than I should have. Would just like to say to those who are able, get out, walk, move, cycle, swim, whatever, enjoy the environment, because you will miss it if you suddenly find you can't.
Oh well, I have discovered Pilates, and I can do that without even getting out of bed.
As for being 'matter of fact', I think that could be a reaction to getting 'burned' in a couple of other threads recently. Thinking the best way for me to avoid that is to be more objective In things I say, rather than giving opinions that some people, who don't agree want to turn personal.
Conversely though, this thread gives me hope. Your kind words have made me open up more than I intended. Maybe only kind people exercise, eh? The '42' challenge has provided the impetus to start working towards an achievable level of activity, that I can sustain and vary, as much as my knackered body will allow. I think there is always some sort of innovative way to make moving about an integral part of daily routine. I am enjoying, so much, hearing about ways people on here are meeting the 42 challenge, and the daily exercise/activity will be embedded in my routine for ever now, thanks to you guys.
Cheers
Pipp
I just had a long conversation with husband about this. He is a veteran runner of many marathons, triathlons and such with over 30 years racing experience. I asked him what is the difference between running and jogging. He replied that there isn't any, just that running gets you there quicker. So I asked, but does it make any difference on the impact on joints. He said it doesn't, as long as you have the correctly fitting shoes, warm up beforehand, and start a programme of gradual training. It's no use deciding to run a 3 mile race if you haven't ran for years, then go ahead with it without planning and training first.I think you're right actually - certainly in respect to potential knee injuries (not sure on what's defined as jogging vs running).
In order to exercise (jog or run) safely, the idea is that you should actually run on the balls of your feet, and lean your body weight forwards slightly (basically, how you might run if you were barefoot). This allows you to use the natural flex in the muscles/tendons up through the back of your legs and 'bounce' on your feet.
Most of the problems with joints and the whole 'over' or 'under' pronator foot issues just stems from running badly - having trainers with big squashy heels that encourage you to strike the ground heel first - jarring the knees and giving the foot an unbalanced landing.
Running is great exercise if it appeals, but there are other things you can do which have less impact - such as Andy12345 with his cycling, or Pipp with swimming. It really doesn't matter what it is - 'it's all good' as they say!
Hey Pipp,
You know, when I said you must be chuffed, I was actually thinking back to some of your posts much earlier on in the thread where it seemed as though the exercise was more of a challenge for you.
I appreciate you had a bit of a setback, and over-did it a bit (hey- we've all been there), but I just thought I would make the comment, because it is just so lovely to hear that you seem to be finding it a little easier, and by being more 'matter of fact' I meant that what you achieve now is almost a throwaway comment - like "and after a 30minute Fartlek I did twenty press-ups and a fifteen minute handstand"
I'm just quietly cheering here, because you seem to be making progress and I'm really happy for you.
I really must insist on giving you a cyber hug.
I appreciate your honesty in that description. I have known people having panic attacks, but never really understood just how it makes them feel. Someone dear to me has extreme anxiety. I will think of your description next time I am with her and she panics. Is there anything other people can do to help you when you feel that way, or do people sometimes make it worse with inappropriate help or responses?I'd like to say you get used to it ( and I suppose I have in many ways ) but sometimes it just shakes you so much. I've suffered on and off for years but life stresses of last three years and menopause have floored me since Xmas. I try and explain it to my hubby as being in control of a car that you want to stop but you've got one foot stuck on the accelerator and the other frantically braking like mad to no avail. With hindsight I can go, on yeah, it was just panic but at the time I just feel out of control and about to meet my maker.
Although I'm not a runner/jogger I agree with this. When I was walking briskly in old, worn trainers my knee and hip began to hurt. New trainers solved this problem, so I can quite see how this would translate into greater problems if you did even more exercise in them.I just had a long conversation with husband about this. He did keep emphasising the need for correctly fitting shoes, as he believes more damage to joints is through people wearing worn out trainers than anything else. .
My activity time today was late. Just completed 22 minutes trundling around the garden with a mini watering can giving the neglected plants a drink. Was very pleasant now it is cooler, so to reward myself I got a can of gin and diet tonic from the fridge. Couldn't drink it until I had completed the allotted time, so used the garden furniture as support did some bench presses, hula hoop moves, leg lifts, lunges. Took 12 mins to complete. I sat enjoying the reward listening to the birds and enjoying the scents of the grateful lavender plants. Oh yes, I was in my pyjamas too. Thought about you lot and the nightie dancing, but didn't bother having a go as I was too busy with feet up enjoying my drink.
I'd like to say you get used to it ( and I suppose I have in many ways ) but sometimes it just shakes you so much. I've suffered on and off for years but life stresses of last three years and menopause have floored me since Xmas. I try and explain it to my hubby as being in control of a car that you want to stop but you've got one foot stuck on the accelerator and the other frantically braking like mad to no avail. With hindsight I can go, on yeah, it was just panic but at the time I just feel out of control and about to meet my maker.
I find this really interesting. Do males and females use food differently in this way? There is certainly, it appears to me, a difference in the way we use the forum.
For me, I don't think the food was comfort. I just stopped looking after myself after my life changed following the disabling accident. It happened at the same time as my career was taking off after time child rearing. That all changed, and at the same time I had the added concern of chronically sick parents to care for. I sort of went into an automatic mode, spent many years crisis managing, and not taking any time for me or the long suffering husband. I also followed, slavishly, the advice to eat carbs with every meal. More annoyingly, I fed the family this way too. Thankfully, I was the only one who gained weight and became diabetic. They probably needed the carbs due to remaining as active as we had all always been.
I appreciate your honesty in that description. I have known people having panic attacks, but never really understood just how it makes them feel. Someone dear to me has extreme anxiety. I will think of your description next time I am with her and she panics. Is there anything other people can do to help you when you feel that way, or do people sometimes make it worse with inappropriate help or responses?
Thanks cold ethyl.Thanks for this. Just taking your lead from the person is the best thing. Sometimes people just need to be with others when it's happening , other times they might want to be left on own. A cold drink of water sometimes help, and reminding them to breathe normally and that it will pass. It's getting the balance between being supportive and it coming across as " you know it's only panic so why are you so anxious again" that's tricky. When you are in the throws of it, the what ifs are so string and the physical symptoms so intense that the tiny voice of reason is just drowned out.
Haha, Bebo321
I have maybe become a bit chummy, but cyber hugs are a definite no no!
I really am grateful to you for your cheerleading. You make such positive comments, and we all need encouragement. So thank you. I don't know what it was about your earlier post that triggered me to open up like that, it is not something I would normally do.
You are absolutely right, at the beginning I was very, very wary of exercise. Although I have always felt that the swimming pool was my place, having been housebound for so long, I was reluctant to step out again. It is taking a long time to recover. The last surgery was at the beginning of January, and the complications were too unpleasant to report here, so I guess there has been a psychological recovery needed too. I am inclined to get a bit overenthusiastic, so rushed to get back to where I was fitness wise and it has come as a shock to find it ain't happening. It has seemed a bit of a cop out when I claim things like walking round the supermarket as my exercise, as this is the sort of stuff folks do all the time, and not regard it as exercise. Yet it is a big deal and a lot of effort for me.
Yikes, this is all sounding a bit too self absorbed. I don't usually like to share personal stuff. So look at what you guys have done to me.
I hope you are getting the support and encouragement you need too. I think what you do is brilliant.
Thanks
Pipp
Thanks for this. Just taking your lead from the person is the best thing. Sometimes people just need to be with others when it's happening , other times they might want to be left on own. A cold drink of water sometimes help, and reminding them to breathe normally and that it will pass. It's getting the balance between being supportive and it coming across as " you know it's only panic so why are you so anxious again" that's tricky. When you are in the throws of it, the what ifs are so string and the physical symptoms so intense that the tiny voice of reason is just drowned out.
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