A newbie says "Hi!"

mogs61

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Hi all,

Just been diagnosed as pre-type 2, heading towards full-blown (fasting BG of 7.9). I saw the consultant yesterday and he's agreed to let me try and manage it through diet and exercise for now - I have another fasting test booked for mid-May. If there's progress on the weight loss (and GOK there needs to be!) and on the BG levels, then I can continue with that. Depending on how it goes, he may introduce Metformin and statins (my cholesterol readings are not what they should be either).
So having tried a low-carb diet before and had some success on the weight loss front, I've decided to go for that, coupled with exercise. I'm also apparently going to be contacted by the diabetes nurse and a dietician.
I'm really glad to have found this site - *so* much useful information!
 

daisy1

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
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Cruelty towards animals.
Hi mogs61 and welcome to the forum :) In order to try to stop your progression to full blown Type 2, try following the information in here. This was written for newly diagnosed members and I think you will find it helpful. Keep on reducing the carbs as this will have a beneficial effect on your levels. Ask as many questions as you need to as there is always someone here to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 

Grazer

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Mogs, follow Daisy's advice and uyou'll soon start getting those BGs down. Word of caution:- when you see the dietician, they may try and steer you down a different path. Mine did. I didn't have this forum then and followed the dieticians instructions - I had Bgs frequently in double figures two hours after eating. I was told I didn't eat enough potatos, pizzas were fine, rice was good, pasta virtually a wonder food, and a few mince pies over christmas wouldn't hurt me. All nonsense. It was only when I started to work it out for myself, read stuff on this forum and reduced my carbs (specially the starchy ones) that I got my BGs under control.
I don't want to start another battle with "but my dietician was great" stuff, but just be careful, listen, then judge for yourself.
 

mogs61

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Thanks to everyone for the welcome :)

Daisy1: thanks for the link. I actually read that piece before I actually registered here. It (along with many other pieces) were one of the reasons I decided to join - so much useful info from people who have "been there, done that, got the t-shirt" :)
A friend of mine got an almost identical diagnosis about 14 months ago and he's since managed to lose almost 30 kilos and got his BG readings back to well within normal bounds by basically doing low carbs. If he can do it, so can I!
I did a low-carb diet a few years ago in an attempt to lose weight and - unlike virtually every other approach to weight loss I've tried - it actually worked for me. The weight came back on when I got lazy about the diet. This time, however, I'm determined to succeed. I think the scare of being told I'm heading rapidly for full-blown diabetes was the kick up the **** I needed to get off said large posterior and actually do something about it. Which is daft, really - that it needed that - but hey, if it works... <g>

And yes, I've heard about the weird recommendations of some NHS dieticians. I'm lucky enough to have private health cover through my work, so am taking that route. No idea if it'll make any difference to their approach, but we shall see. If they do recommend a high carb approach, I shall smile sweetly, and then carry on and do my own thing :)
 

mogs61

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One thing I meant to mention - about 7 or so years ago, I had an attack of acute pancreatitis which landed me in hospital on a drip for 48 hours. I was somewhat peeved at the time by the suggestion that because I didn't have gallstones, it must have an alcohol problem. No, actually, I don't! I've since found out that 1 in 5 cases, they have absolutely no idea what causes it.

When I told my consultant about this, he suggested that this may have been the start of my problems and that the pancreatitis may have caused damage to the insulin production system and triggered the insulin resistance thing.

Anyone else have any experience of this?