Absolutely gutted

42 is a superb improvement. Keep with the new diet and don't expect the numbers to plummet. But know that you are so much healthier than you were 4 months ago. I had the same kind of results as you after a few months but was delighted that I had made the numbers go down. Imagine what they would be if you had continued with your old eating regime.

johnnyboy1 said:

Hi all , My background is 4 months ago was diagnosed pre diabetic with a hba1c of 45, . I took nurses advice , plus joined here for more info , went on the low carb programme for even more tips, Basically I cut out fizzy drinks totally , no sugar in cereals ( replaced with fruit ) became more aware of the traffic light system , avoiding the red lights and eating wholemeal bread, lost 19 lbs in weight . Got my latest results through and I am down from 45 to 42 . for the effort I have put in Im only down 3 points, It is actually heartbreaking , I honestly thought I would be 30 something at least . To top it off I had to create a new account, as it did not recognise my e-mail account. Im on a low please help !!!!

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A couple of things strike me in your account. Cereals are mostly sugar in their own right. Not adding sugar to them is only doing a half ***** job. If you want greater success than you have had you should consider less cereal or none at all. It depends how miserable you want to be in order to succeed. Bread is bread, it doesn't matter what the colour is. The advent of wholemeal (should be wholegrain really) was because people were told it would keep them regular. It does nothing but make diabetes worse.
Congratulations on your weight loss, well done. That may have been due to lack of fizzy drinks.

The cereal I eat every morning is muesli that I buy at the health food shop. I checked all the labels and went with that with the lowest sugar content. I have it with natural or Greek yoghurt (not the low fat variety which has added sugar). I bet fizzy drinks taste nasty now after 4 months off them. Keep it going and you will maintain and gradually increase the loss in numbers

You do sound like you are still eating a fair amount of carbs in various forms, I am still very much learning myself but I cannot tolerate any cereals, they all cause me a spike in sugar levels. I also have to really be very very careful around any bread option, just one small slice from a wholemeal loaf is about my limit (not worth bothering with) so I tend to avoid all bread.

Your weight loss is fantastic and you need to take into consideration you have done well so far, it is a long road as I have discovered and I am still learning, so be kind to yourself and remember you are doing well.

Sampat said:

The cereal I eat every morning is muesli that I buy at the health food shop. I checked all the labels and went with that with the lowest sugar content. I have it with natural or Greek yoghurt (not the low fat variety which has added sugar). I bet fizzy drinks taste nasty now after 4 months off them. Keep it going and you will maintain and gradually increase the loss in numbers

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The sugar content will be part of the overall carbohydrate content and it is that that does the damage. If you look at the carbohydrate figure and totally disregard the "of which sugar" you have a better idea of whether or not it is suitable. It's great that you are reading labels.

johnnyboy1 said:

Hi all , My background is 4 months ago was diagnosed pre diabetic with a hba1c of 45, . I took nurses advice , plus joined here for more info , went on the low carb programme for even more tips, Basically I cut out fizzy drinks totally , no sugar in cereals ( replaced with fruit ) became more aware of the traffic light system , avoiding the red lights and eating wholemeal bread, lost 19 lbs in weight . Got my latest results through and I am down from 45 to 42 . for the effort I have put in Im only down 3 points, It is actually heartbreaking , I honestly thought I would be 30 something at least . To top it off I had to create a new account, as it did not recognise my e-mail account. Im on a low please help !!!!

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Hang in there. I'm in the same boat as you, but I'm just trying to maintain my weight. I'm almost 4 months in too. It's a struggle sometimes to keep my mood up. From what I know, this isn't going to go away in just a few months, so plan for longer term - find and keep what you like about the adjustments you've done. It doesn't sound like you're testing your meals, so I would recommend you to do so. It really helps to know what foods your body can take.

Cornflakes and Weetabix are not good if you are avoiding carbohydrates. Tapwater with a slice of lemon or lime is much better than "diluting juice" which probably has sugar in it.

@johnnyboy1 if you want to follow LCHF diet you need to be cutting back on the bread I would say (just my opinion but it seems high). Each slice is around 15-20g of carbs, so maybe 75g a day in bread alone - many low carbs only eat 50g a day in all their food. Look at LovLife bread, 3.8g of carbs per slice.

Have a look at the Diet Doctor website (google it), it really helped me understand low carbing.

I'll be honest it's not easy to start with, and you have to read lots of labels but it has worked for me. Best of luck.

I think you should consider moving to a Low Carb / High Fat diet. It doesn't really help just cutting out sugar, it's carbohydrates in all its forms that's raising your BG - if you're reading labels, you'll see what has high carbohydrates - almost all cereals have quite a high carb content and so does bread - there are a few exceptions: some people can eat porridge, and there are a few types of bread (Lidl protein rolls, Burgen's, Vogels) which have low enough carb content so you can have a couple of slices at a meal.

It's not a trivial change in diet - though of all the diets I've tried or heard of it has many advantages. First thing you have to accept you'll need to educate yourself - the DietDoctor website is very good and read labels of food and plan a lot more - you'll find it much harder to grab a snack when you're out for instance, though it is possible.

The big advantage is that you can eat many foods which are the tastiest and interesting - cutting out the carbs in a typical meal would mean not having the most boring part generally - the pasta in bolognese, the potatoes in you sunday dinner. Thing is you HAVE to eat more fat to make up for the missing carbs, or else your body will convert the other main food group - protein, to raise your blood sugar. Many people, including me, have found better energy levels and mood since going on the diet, and there are various suggested reasons why, including the weight loss, but I'm loving it whatever is going on, and my BG is almost certainly down to my pre-diabetic level (I have my first blood-test since starting it tomorrow).

hi @johnnyboy1 .. your doing really well, but now is the time to start your Low Carb high fat way of eating.
(if thats the way you want to go)
If you read the carb content of everything you eat, the carbs are in the small print on the back of packets.. if its fresh fruit or veg then most supermarket on line shopping sites will list the carb content. You must count the full cabs .. not just the sugar part of things ..
then pick a number to work to ... I knocked my T2 into remission by only eating 20g of carbs a day .. Stop eating All low fat foods and replace them with full fat ones .. (low fat food is full of hidden sugar to give it flavour)
If you have a bs meter then test you bs just before eating and then again 2 hours later, your aiming to keep your blood sugar difference around only a 2.0 rise. If you stick with the LCHF way of eating it should stop you wondering in to T2.

Keep going with the low carb high fat. Once you become fat adapted it all becomes so much easier and you will get off the carb roller coaster where the lows make you feel starving.
In the meantime you can try a few low carb snacks to keep you going til dinner. A slice of cheese, a spoon of pate, a handful of pistachios (if you get the ones in their shells it help to slow you down eating them). My go to snack in the first week was a spoonful of double cream. Was hard to eat more than a spoonful and just made me feel full so I didn't then go for a carby snack.
I now haven't eaten bread, rice , pasta potatoes for over a year (with the occasional tiny portion) and i don't really miss them. Only if someone comes with fresh hot rolls or something I'll have a little bit with lots of butter so i don't feel i am missing out but these days the carbs really have to be worth it - I no longer eat them as filler.
I recommend getting a meter too so you can see just what effect carbs have and whether there are some you can tolerate better than others or in small portions. Test before and then 1 and 2 hours after eating. Write it down and you'll soon see patterns emerging and know what you can and can't eat.

I snack on cashew nuts, baby tomatoes, chunk of cheese...

johnnyboy1 said:

Hi all , My background is 4 months ago was diagnosed pre diabetic with a hba1c of 45, . I took nurses advice , plus joined here for more info , went on the low carb programme for even more tips, Basically I cut out fizzy drinks totally , no sugar in cereals ( replaced with fruit ) became more aware of the traffic light system , avoiding the red lights and eating wholemeal bread, lost 19 lbs in weight . Got my latest results through and I am down from 45 to 42 . for the effort I have put in Im only down 3 points, It is actually heartbreaking , I honestly thought I would be 30 something at least . To top it off I had to create a new account, as it did not recognise my e-mail account. Im on a low please help !!!!

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Hi, well done on your results. to improve things further you could try cutting out the cereal, fruit and bread

Sampat said:

"diluting juice" which probably has sugar in it.

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I use Robinsons 'Real Fruit' Squash, which has no added sugar. The Orange squash has 0.6g of carbs/sugars per 100ml, and the Lemon squash has 0g of carbs/sugars per 100ml.