Addition to the statin debate

[Jo_the_boat]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...statins-giving-aches-pains-nocebo-effect.html

 

[Member496333]

Probably some truth in it regarding the side effects, but my biggest concern with taking a statin would be the absolute certainty of it messing with my body’s ability to manufacture an essential life-sustaining substance in the quantities that it requires.

But that’s just me.

 

[Daphne917]

So how does that explain the rise in Hba1c that some patients, inc me, experience? I also note that he seems to be promoting his latest diet!

 

[Member496333]

So how does that explain the rise in Hba1c that some patients, inc me, experience? I also note that he seems to be promoting his latest diet!

I think the guy has sold out to be honest, but that’s just an opinion.

I’ve heard of this nocebo effect before and I don’t doubt that it has some basis in truth, but I find it slightly suspicious that it’s suddenly being associated with statin side effects at a time when they are becoming more widely publicised. In my mind this story is up there with Keto Crotch.

 

[bulkbiker]

Bought and paid for..

 

[kitedoc]

Nicebo and placebo effects are well known, but when someone on a statins shows biochemical evidence of say muscle damage, raised bsls then that is real..
The espoused figure of a 1% incidence of sideeffects of statins, is not backed by any scientific reference.

 

[Guzzler]

Strange that the manufacturers themselves admit to statin side effects and some add in co-enzyme Q10 to counteract said.
Placebo and nocebo effects are real but so are side effects. When all said and done I suppose it depends on whether you believe that lowering LDL (throughout its range) is a good idea in the first place.

 

[Tophat1900]

Strange that the manufacturers themselves admit to statin side effects and some add in co-enzyme Q10 to counteract said.
Placebo and nocebo effects are real but so are side effects. When all said and done I suppose it depends on whether you believe that lowering LDL (throughout its range) is a good idea in the first place.

They also deplete the vitally important vit K2

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25655639

 

[JohnEGreen]

Two things I have in my medicines box a large amount of unused statins and and a nearly empty tub of K2 supplements.