• Guest - w'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the 2026 Survey »

Advice on HBA1C test

Stevemakk

Member
Messages
7
Hello,

I've just joined this group today.

I had a blood test last week and my HBA1C result was high. It was re-tested 5 days later and it's the same result, (99 or 11.4).

My GP is suggesting another test in 2 weeks time but if it is a measurement of your average glucose over a 6 to 8 week period surely 2 weeks is too soon to check it again?

I don't really understand all this yet but I do understand the posts about being scared,angry and overwhelmed.
The GP and diabetic nurse are all very nonchalant about it, and have given me no advice as to what to do for the next 2 weeks before the re-test.
If someone could help I'd be very grateful.
 
Hi and welcome. Yes, doing an HBa1C test within 2 weeks sounds a bit pointless and a waste of money. Normally it would be done every 3 months at your HBa1C level. The main thing to do currently is greatly reduce your carbs. Keep the proteins, fats, veg and fruit going at a level that keeps you feeling full. If you have some excess weight this will help assuming you are a T2 at diagnosis. If you are slim and have lost weight recently then T1 is more likely and medication will need to be started very soon and you will need a glucose meter.
 
Hi and welcome.

It is normal to have two HbA1c tests. The second to confirm the first. You have had bothe these. What does seem pointless is to have a third so close together. Did he specifically say this next test is another HbA1c? It could well be something entirely different. Depending on your symptoms, your GP may be suspecting T1 rather than T2 and this next test could be to check on that. I could, of course, be quite wrong.

Whatever, no time like the present to start formulating a plan for self management. Diet is the key. I will tag @daisy1 who will give you all the excellent information you need. Take note of the role of carbohydrates in the diet. Meanwhile, have a good browse round the main website and the forum posts and try to learn as much as you can about diabetes, what the tests are, and what the blood test numbers mean. All the information is on the website. Please ask as many questions as you like.
 
Thank you for your replies. The test in 2 weeks is another HBA1C test. I think she's requesting it because I've been on Omeprazole tablets, (to counteract some Naproxen tablets for a bad shoulder) and there's some evidence, (at least anecdotal) that Omeprazole can affect your blood sugar levels.
I'm a bit all over the place at the moment. I'm guessing I need to change my lifestyle, (more exercise, less drinking, healthier food). I am right in thinking that at 53 they would probably have already diagnosed T1, or is it still in the frame?
I have none of the classic symptoms except I've lost about 5-6Kg over the last 18 months.

Thanks
 
Yep, sounds like you need a lifestyle change. No time like the present. If it helps, you can look upon this as the kick in the bum you perhaps needed to take charge of your health. Many of us type 2's saw the diagnosis as the kick we needed. I certainly did.

Type 1 can arrive at any time. Although it is known as a condition of children and young people, it isn't restricted to those groups. It can be late onset. The normal symptoms are usually fairly obvious, and sudden, unexpected, significant weight loss is one of those symptoms. This doesn't seem to apply in your case.

Keep reading about it, learn all about carbs and try to reduce the amount of carbs you eat, particularly bread, rice, pasta, potatoes and cereals. Read the food labels on products you buy, look at the ingredients, and look for the total carbs contained in it. The lower the better. It isn't just sugar that causes our blood glucose to rise. Sugar is just one carbohydrate. It is all carbs as they all convert to glucose once inside the system.

Good luck :)
 
Dear Stevemakk,
Firstly welcome to the diabetes forum. You've made the right decision in joining and studying all about your diabetes and this site will tell you more than you will ever need to know about diabetes and how best to control it.
You are already on the right line, though I'm not so sure that your Dr and diabetic team are, but that's something that we diabetic's sometimes find.
As for the repeated HbA1c testing, well as you rightly say there is little point in re-testing at the 2 week interval as the HbA1c test take an average B/G reading over a 12 week period.
The medical 'EXPERTS' as they would like to be called sometimes do repeat this test in such short time periods in order to see if a change in medications is having any immediate effect, but it would have been better to have done the Frutosimine test rather than a HbA1c test as this shows an average over a shorter time period (I think it's averages the B/G for the patient's last 2 weeks) and this will show even better if the change in medications are effective or not.
Don't despair if your DR and Medical team don't seem to know what their doing, this is somewhat common. Read, study and learn for yourself all you can about diabetes and how to control it. We've been down the road you are on and many of us have taken control of our diabetes for ourselves with our choice of diet, exercise and support from others here on this site.
Good luck, Please ask and we'll try our best to help you master your diabetes for yourself.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Most T1s are diagnosed as children or teenagers, but it can happen at any age. I believe we have had people on the forum who have developed T1 in their 70s and 80s.

At the moment, go with the flow, and make sure you get copies of every test they ever run on you! You can ask for print outs, or ask for patient online access, and view the results over the internet, but don't ever accept 'its fine' or 'you are normal' as the only info they give you. I think sometimes NHS staff think it is all too technical and complicated for us mere mortals to understand, but the truth is we are the ones with the condition, and we need to understand exactly where we stand so that we can deal with it on a daily basis.

Looking at diet is a first step, and one you can do in the two weeks until your next appt.

Welcome to the club! Once you get your head around it, it won't seem nearly so overwhelming. :)
 
@Stevemakk

Hello Steve and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially with regard to diet choices. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hello,

I've just joined this group today.

I had a blood test last week and my HBA1C result was high. It was re-tested 5 days later and it's the same result, (99 or 11.4).

My GP is suggesting another test in 2 weeks time but if it is a measurement of your average glucose over a 6 to 8 week period surely 2 weeks is too soon to check it again?

I don't really understand all this yet but I do understand the posts about being scared,angry and overwhelmed.
The GP and diabetic nurse are all very nonchalant about it, and have given me no advice as to what to do for the next 2 weeks before the re-test.
If someone could help I'd be very grateful.

Hi, welcome.....recently joined myself and in a similar position. My head's all over the place and I too feel as though I'm in a little bit of limbo waiting for the next step. I came out of the GP's with my head spinning and no further information other than "You're diabetic and need to lose weight & exercise". I'm hoping an appointment might be forthcoming from the Diabetic nurse soon. We will settle soon I think and start to formulate a plan. Good luck with everything!
 
Thank you for your replies. The test in 2 weeks is another HBA1C test. I think she's requesting it because I've been on Omeprazole tablets, (to counteract some Naproxen tablets for a bad shoulder) and there's some evidence, (at least anecdotal) that Omeprazole can affect your blood sugar levels.
I'm a bit all over the place at the moment. I'm guessing I need to change my lifestyle, (more exercise, less drinking, healthier food). I am right in thinking that at 53 they would probably have already diagnosed T1, or is it still in the frame?
I have none of the classic symptoms except I've lost about 5-6Kg over the last 18 months.

Thanks
I am on Omeprazole myself, and the only effect I have seen reported is an ADA warning regarding magnesium, as follows
<<Prescription medicines in a class of drugs called proton pump inhibitors (PPIs) may cause low levels of magnesium in the blood (hypomagnesemia) if taken for a long time—in most cases, longer than one year. PPIs reduce the amount of acid in the stomach and are used to treat conditions such as gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), stomach and small intestine ulcers, and inflammation of the esophagus.>>

There is an interaction with other medications such as metformini n that omeprazole delays digestion of those meds due to acid reduction in the stomach. This is not likely to directly affect bgl levels.
 
The test in 2 weeks is another HBA1C test. I think she's requesting it because I've been on Omeprazole tablets, (to counteract some Naproxen tablets for a bad shoulder) and there's some evidence, (at least anecdotal) that Omeprazole can affect your blood sugar levels.

I am right in thinking that at 53 they would probably have already diagnosed T1, or is it still in the frame?

That would be incorrect. Both LADA and "T1" can occur even in the elderly. LADA is relatively common in middle and old age.

Both are caused by autoimmune destruction of beta cells. T1 is fast developing, LADA is slow developing.

For sure, ask the doctor why the third HbA1c so soon.
 
Hi, welcome.....recently joined myself and in a similar position. My head's all over the place and I too feel as though I'm in a little bit of limbo waiting for the next step. I came out of the GP's with my head spinning and no further information other than "You're diabetic and need to lose weight & exercise". I'm hoping an appointment might be forthcoming from the Diabetic nurse soon. We will settle soon I think and start to formulate a plan. Good luck with everything!
Hi Shelleymomma,
It's sounds like we are in a similar boat. The medical professionals don't seem to appreciate what it feels like to be on the sharp end of this news. Good luck to you too.
 
That would be incorrect. Both LADA and "T1" can occur even in the elderly. LADA is relatively common in middle and old age.

Both are caused by autoimmune destruction of beta cells. T1 is fast developing, LADA is slow developing.

For sure, ask the doctor why the third HbA1c so soon.
Thanks for the clarification.
 
I am on Omeprazole myself, and the only effect I have seen reported is an ADA warning regarding magnesium, as follows
<<Prescription medicines in a class of drugs called proton pump inhibitors (PPIs) may cause low levels of magnesium in the blood (hypomagnesemia) if taken for a long time—in most cases, longer than one year. PPIs reduce the amount of acid in the stomach and are used to treat conditions such as gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), stomach and small intestine ulcers, and inflammation of the esophagus.>>

There is an interaction with other medications such as metformini n that omeprazole delays digestion of those meds due to acid reduction in the stomach. This is not likely to directly affect bgl levels.
Thanks for the advice. It was the reduction in magnesium levels I read about but I don't think that's causing my high Hba1c reading.
 
@Stevemakk

Hello Steve and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially with regard to diet choices. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Thank you very much for this advice. It looks like just what I need to start to get to grips with my health.
 
Back
Top