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Ginnyliz

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My partner is insulin dependant and has brittle diabetes. I am familiar with how to help him manage his condition.
I need a bit of help please !!!!!

He has become very depressed and has talked about suicide.

1/2 hour ago he took 100 units of insulin on purpose.
He has not eaten for several days and refuses to eat now.
He will not let me call the medics out.
At present he is fully aware of his senses and VERY angry and volatile

What can I do ???????
 
I think you need to get some professional medical advice. Don't try to deal with this on your own,
I suspect 999 would be needed but you could also try your out of hours service.

Get some help.

Good luck an let us know how you get on
 
If I call them he will not give them access to come in & will refuse treatment.
He is drinking alcohol heavily as well. I have substituted ordinary coke instead of diet coke in his drink in the hope it will keep his sugar level up abit
 
I think you are going to have to call for help. Can you let them in?
Please let us know how you get on. X
 
Ginnyliz said:
If I call them he will not give them access to come in & will refuse treatment.
He is drinking alcohol heavily as well. I have substituted ordinary coke instead of diet coke in his drink in the hope it will keep his sugar level up abit
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You need to call his G.P. He needs urgent treatment and if he refuses help he could be sectioned. The fact that he is threatening suicide, taking extra insulin will alert the G.P.
 
You should still probably give Out Of Hours a call. If he is really bad there may be mental health issues which could mean he wont need to consent to treatment.

Get some help, it's New Years Eve don't try to handle this on your own.
 
In that state, don't think services would need his authorisation. Think common sense would prevail, full coke not enough, call 999

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If he is behaving in an aggressive and unreasonable manner and is drinking alcohol then they can enter without his permission. He is clearly suffering and really needs help as.soon as possible

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I rang the local a&e dept. who said they can't take him to hospital without his consent as it is classed as kidnap !!!!!
I can not overrule them or him !!!! If he is unconcious then they can take him in !!!!
He has calmed down enough for me to get him to eat sugary sweets & trying to get him to take 80g dextrogel.
Blood sugar hovering around 4 at the moment
 
Ginnyliz said:
I rang the local a&e dept. who said they can't take him to hospital without his consent as it is classed as kidnap !!!!!
I can not overrule them or him !!!! If he is unconcious then they can take him in !!!!
He has calmed down enough for me to get him to eat sugary sweets & trying to get him to take 80g dextrogel.
Blood sugar hovering around 4 at the moment
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His G.P. would assess the situation and if he felt that he needed hospitalisation then he would arrange it. It would not matter whether he consented or not because his G.P. would be doing it in the best interest of the patient. You can be sectioned if you are deemed to be a danger to yourself or to others.
I am glad he is calming down but you need to be ready for a possible further episode.
 
Thankyou. Am now trying the out of hours service to see if I can get help from them. He is still fully aware of his senses and not showing the classic signs of a hypo he normally has............ Yet!
I will keep you all posted and Thankyou all for being out there for me !!
 
Out of hours service have not rung me back but am relieved that his blood sugars are gradually coming back up.
I will continue to keep a close eye on him through the night
Thankyou all again for your advice
 
Ginnyliz said:
Out of hours service have not rung me back but am relieved that his blood sugars are gradually coming back up.
I will continue to keep a close eye on him through the night
Thankyou all again for your advice
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If this happens again, call out the paramedic's to deal with it.. They honestly don't mind.

When speaking to control, if like last night it's a case of an self induced hypo with an massive over-does of insulin, tell them and if he's being aggressive then tell them this, so they can give the attending paramedics a full picture of the situation.

Control under these circumstances might decide to send 2 police officer as well, or they may wait for the paramedic to fully assess the situation, if the paramedics do it, they will ask your permission before making the call. Only police officer's have the power to physically restrain somebody, via their power of arrest. Which they basically do to be able to get cuff's on. But don't worry there's no ramifications from this happening you de-arrested and nothing is written down.

Unless it's considered which in your partner's case, that it was an attempted over-dose and he's likely to do it again, the police can use their power of arrest under the mental health act, so they can get him to a place of safety.

Now this advent is over, options you have are limited more so if you can convince him to make an appointment with his GP or diabetic team, you can before he goes phone them tell them your concerns and what's been happening, etc. Even if he's unwilling to make an appointment but does attend appointments, you can phone the team explain what's happening etc, they might actually pull his appointment forward or at least they will approach his problems at the appointment.

You will find, the first thing said to you is, 'We can't discuss patients details due to confidentiality' but do explain you don't want to 'discuss' just inform them on what is happening and your concerns, that you feel they should be aware of etc.
 
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