ChrisSamsDad
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Once again, just because science-based medicine isn't perfect is no reason to throw out the whole idea and pull fanciful ideas out of your bum and use them instead. it's a reason to work harder to make it better.
Is that like the" take your metformin like a good boy" and follow the eatwell plate kinda medicine?
Yes Chris but the problem is that because it is "science" then most of the practitioners won't open their eyes to look at any alternative..therein lies the problem.Once again, just because science-based medicine isn't perfect is no reason to throw out the whole idea and pull fanciful ideas out of your bum and use them instead. it's a reason to work harder to make it better.
Well, given that science is the combination of the best methods of finding out the actual truth in nature, what actually are the alternatives - let's not bother with the truth? There are plenty of alternative treatments suggested, and the sensible way is to test if they work, and if you get sufficient evidence that they don't work - like homeopathy, chiropracty, reiki, prayers or acupuncture, stop using them, and move on. When you find something that does seem to work, use more science to find out what's actually going on, in order to improve it or find a better way.Yes Chris but the problem is that because it is "science" then most of the practitioners won't open their eyes to look at any alternative..therein lies the problem.
but did he fix it the Chiropractic way, by realigning your magnetic flow and fixing the chiropractic subluxations, or did he give you physio, massage and exercise? Scans and x-rays won't show subluxations.
I'll probably get banned for saying this again, as I have before, but your anecdote is irrelevant - it's not evidence, there are a number of ways you could have got better, but given that not only the theory but practice of chiropractic is proven not to be effective, except in a very limited set of circumstances, it wasn't likely to have been it, unless by accident.
I came late to this thread and have only read about half of it so far but it reminded me of and old story. Red Buttons was an American comedian who was once asked what he thought of faith healers. He said, "Show me one who does teeth". It may not be totally on topic or further the argument about unscientific medicine but you have to admit it was a good answer.
I had the same thing, got whiplash banging my head on a doorframe, and then came shoulder pain, upper arm and then elbow - fairly common according to my physio, and easily treated with some exercises and massages.As it transpired the issue I had originated in my neck, with knock-ons into my shoulder and elbow. To be honest, that the pain went away was good enough for me when two years of other therapies had not budged it, he could have waved a feather over it and chanted, whilst wearing unmatched socks, for all I cared.
I agree completely but why can't scientist (and doctors)s do that when it comes to diet.. sorry I've just watched the Panorama frightfest from last night and the far more balanced welsh programme about carbs and fat.Well, given that science is the combination of the best methods of finding out the actual truth in nature, what actually are the alternatives - let's not bother with the truth? There are plenty of alternative treatments suggested, and the sensible way is to test if they work, and if you get sufficient evidence that they don't work - like homeopathy, chiropracty, reiki, prayers or acupuncture, stop using them, and move on. When you find something that does seem to work, use more science to find out what's actually going on, in order to improve it or find a better way.
Are you talking to a mirror? Seems most what you say on this thread is also irrelevant and applies aqually to your own views. I think that you too << pull fanciful ideas out of your bum>> to quote a maestro in that art.Once again, just because science-based medicine isn't perfect is no reason to throw out the whole idea and pull fanciful ideas out of your bum and use them instead. it's a reason to work harder to make it better.
The clue is probably in the sugar. Would you still use it now? I wonder how bgl is affected. It seems most cough mixtures have sugar or honey or molasses or licorice as a basis, so it is not that alternative to standard OTC remedies.I have another offering. My family have a tribal memory about a cure for the hacking type of cough. You get a turnip (definitely not a parsnip). You slice your turnip and place the slices in a breakfast bowl with sugar between each slice. Put it somewhere where the flies won't get at it and wait. A clear fluid is produced. Two teaspoonfuls of that and no cough. You can have as many teaspoonfuls as you like since I am not clear what a "dose" is.
I tried it to see if it was nonsense and it worked so well that I still use it if I get the tickly hacking cough that cough medicines don't help with.
This is alternative medicine I suppose. It will not be accepted by the medical fraternity since it has not had a double blind random control trial but it does raise some questions like....
Are there any more remedies like that out there?
How can I make money out of it?
and so on
I would still use it now since the cure is immediate and the adverse effects are transient. I have used it since diagnosis and it has proved effective. I don't know why it does but it does.The clue is probably in the sugar. Would you still use it now? I wonder how bgl is affected. It seems most cough mixtures have sugar or honey or molasses or licorice as a basis, so it is not that alternative to standard OTC remedies.
I heard something similar about prayers curing people - why is it he can only cure things which are internal and hidden - no-ones ever persuaded him to grow an amputated limb back for them.
Yeah, I'm one of them due to a sometime stomach ulcer. I said 'safer' because it came via a natural remedy, Salysilic Acid, in birch bark, that caused the same gastric problems, but far far worse. Then it was stabilised by a chemist and the side effects reduced.Aspirin is not safe for people with certain stomach conditions. I can't have it or any other NSAIDS
My heart medication also contraindicates NSAIDS. Anyone on a blood thinner is also advised not to use them. Peptic ulcer sufferers too. Obviously hemophiliacs should avoid.Aspirin is not safe for people with certain stomach conditions. I can't have it or any other NSAIDS
Are proseletysing science botherers less annoying than proseletysing god botherers? Can anyone tell the difference?
Well, we have more than one book, actual evidence and so far we haven't started slaughtering those who don't agree with us. (Though I'm often sorely tempted).Are proseletysing science botherers less annoying than proseletysing god botherers? Can anyone tell the difference?
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