Type 2 Am I right in thinking 4.0 is getting too low?

[HSSS]

Been running low all week, not really getting higher than 6 something.
Been feeling really good, appetite down and mood much better.

Eating huge breakfast and some days then didn’t eat till late afternoon because I just wasn’t hungry, even if levels were high 4s.

Well that’s great news and definite progress on where you were a week ago. More filling meals means no hunger and you’re not blaming hunger on lower numbers any more.

The only thing is I’m this because I’m basically not eating carbs.

If I eat something I shouldn’t I’ll still
Spike, so doesn’t that mean I’ll still be diabetic?

That’s how most of us do it!
That’s what happens to most of us!
We’ll all still be diabetic forever, just getting normal numbers if we’re lucky / work for it. (Remission, reversal, controlled call it what you will)

I don’t want to come off too early and then muck it all up and get back to where I was months ago.

Why would you go back to high numbers? You’ve made significant changes since then to diet. Did you at any time explore metformin. It could be a compromise between a drug that definitely causes you worry about low numbers and no drugs which causes you stress about possibly rising numbers.

And when I first got diagnosed I went no carb and hit these levels and got told I had to eat carbs to make sure I didn’t go too low.

Crazy. Drugs should match your condition not make your diet match your drugs.

Really?
What about driving is that still ok?

I get so blooming confused with the driving bit.

I personally have linked dvla rules to you about driving. So you have the first word in black and white. Have you read them? What is confusing you specifically about what they say. https://www.gov.uk/diabetes-driving. As far as I can see it is only insulin users and those on sulphonylurea or glinide class meds (for cars) that have any restrictions unless severe hypos have occurred. If you really are unsure if you are complying with the law then I suggest you phone them and ask. I think you are but you shouldn’t trust anyone apart from dvla in my opinion.

 

[bulkbiker]

Sorry I don’t really get what you are saying.

That once you are off your medication you can drive like everyone else. There won't be any need to test your blood sugars before driving, unless you want to of course.

 

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Before I got type 1 diabetes, I would experience moments when I would get more irritable and a little unstable on my feet. As no one amongst my friends or family had diabetes, I was unable to text my bg. However, I now realise those symptoms were the same as a hypo now. This was emphasised by my "recovery" with something sweet in those days.
What I have taken from this experience is that people how do not take bg lowering drugs can experience low BG. In my mind, as long as you are aware and ready with something to eat, if you experience these symptoms, it is not a major problem.
Unless it happens often. In which case, I would visit a doctor to get it checked out.

 

[woollygal]

Well that’s great news and definite progress on where you were a week ago. More filling meals means no hunger and you’re not blaming hunger on lower numbers any more.

That’s how most of us do it!
That’s what happens to most of us!
We’ll all still be diabetic forever, just getting normal numbers if we’re lucky / work for it. (Remission, reversal, controlled call it what you will)

Why would you go back to high numbers? You’ve made significant changes since then to diet. Did you at any time explore metformin. It could be a compromise between a drug that definitely causes you worry about low numbers and no drugs which causes you stress about possibly rising numbers.


Crazy. Drugs should match your condition not make your diet match your drugs.

I personally have linked dvla rules to you about driving. So you have the first word in black and white. Have you read them? What is confusing you specifically about what they say. https://www.gov.uk/diabetes-driving. As far as I can see it is only insulin users and those on sulphonylurea or glinide class meds (for cars) that have any restrictions unless severe hypos have occurred. If you really are unsure if you are complying with the law then I suggest you phone them and ask. I think you are but you shouldn’t trust anyone apart from dvla in my opinion.

When I was first diagnosed I got put on slow release metmorfin but they made me way too Ill.
Stabbing pains, diarrhoea just basically too intolerant so dr took me off after 2 days.

I did read them, I think I’m just confused by loads of info.

I haven’t called them it because I don’t want to alert them. I’m going to try and get a friend to do it.

To be fair when they told me to up carbs to allow for meds it was within couple weeks of diagnosis and my sugars were stupidly high. So I couldn’t have come off meds at that point.

Plus if I see dr she will just repeat that I shouldn’t be testing and blah blah although if I didn’t I wouldn’t be as good as I am now etc.

I just need to get to August and middle through till then till my hba1c hopefully comes back normal.

To be fair today I ate less breakfast (ran out of tomatoes and cheese and mayo) so only had egg and bacon and that was eaten 7am my 4 was at 2.30 ish so possibly should have just eaten before. But just didn’t feel like I wanted to.

In fact until I ate a phd bar I felt fine. Once I ate that I really felt like I was low. Other than feeling like murdering someone I’d felt ok ish

 

[HSSS]

Your dr advises you what she thinks. You make the decision.

There is no reason why you shouldn’t present her with evidence of your test results, no matter whether she agreed with you testing or not it’s still relevant facts.

There’s also no reason not to have hb1ac checked before then. Especially if your meds are causing you concerns, both for driving legalities and fear of hypo figures. If they are causing you issues (although we pretty much agree it’s desirable numbers you’re hitting) then they need reviewing now not in 4 months time. Some artificially created rule in your mind that you should not return before then because you’ve been too often is pointless. NICE recommends newly diagnosed are checked 3 monthly til stable and then 6 monthly. When was your last one?

 

[HSSS]

In fact until I ate a phd bar I felt fine. Once I ate that I really felt like I was low. Other than feeling like murdering someone I’d felt ok ish

The maltitol in the bar more likely made you spike high than drop low! If it made you feel like murdering someone probably best avoided.

“Quest” available in Holland and Barrett are about the only such bar if you really need them without maltitol. They use stevia and sucralose.

 

[woollygal]

The maltitol in the bar more likely made you spike high than drop low! If it made you feel like murdering someone probably best avoided.

“Quest” available in Holland and Barrett are about the only such bar if you really need them without maltitol. They use stevia and sucralose.

No I mean the only thing that made me suspect I was low was the wanting to murder someone. Not the bar.

The bar just made me feel even hungrier etc. Didn’t spike. Went up to 5.5 after an hour. I the. Had hot choc as well. Was hungry just didn’t fancy eating.

Main issue I think is should have had a proper meal.