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minexplorer

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i guess im a classic diabetes victim.44yrs weight increased to 15stone last 5yrs(5ft 8in)mostly on belly area.diet very high in bread rice potatoes and cask ale.
2 months ago my doctor told me i had diabetes (reading 10.3)and sent me off with a stack of perscriptions and info leaflets.
12 months before a previous blood test had shown a reading of 6.8.all he said was,you are at RISK of developing diabetes lose some weight(yeah im at RISK of loads of things probably).thats all he said.i had no idea what diabetes was other than people who have it cant eat sugar or something.big deal,i havent got a sweet tooth and dont touch sweet stuff.
if he had impressed on me THEN the seriousness of the situation or given me those leaflets i would have taken immediate action.instead i was too wrapped up during the year in low moods and favorite foods and ale were my answer.so my weight crept up for a while to nearly 17stone an that finally tipped the balance.
I feel really angry at myself for not finding out about what diabetes was.i would have been in a panic to lose weight and avoid the high carbs etc.
however i feel equally angry at the doctor.he could have taken action to bring me back from the brink.he didnt tell me a thing.i would be interested if others had similar experiences from the medical profession?
strangely enough i have experienced no symptoms like thirst exhaustion or peeing frequently and have normal blood pressure.i am very active tho regarding the blood pressure.
Can an early diabetic reverse/repair their body as those in the pre diabetic stage can?
A older guy at my wifes church (paul barton,posts stuff on utube)is adamant they can.not just controlling but curing.i can find nothing anywhere however that agrees with this tho.
his principle is to give the pancreas a TOTAL rest for many weeks and likewise the cells to have a chance to recover normal insulin sensitivity.
i know the LOW CARB diet is nothing new for diabetes.he suggests however you need to have absolutely ONLY carbs contained in certain fruits (not juice)lightly cooked vegatables(not parsnips,pots),olives,salad veg(beetroot raw),nuts,pulses,seeds,lean meats,chicken,fish,eggs.cheese in moderation.the diet man was supposed to to eat basically.
very importantly eat breakfast within 30mins of waking .snack every 90 mins os so (just a piece fruit and cheese or a few nuts is enough)more often if exercising.the idea being to keep blood sugar even and so NEVER give your liver reason to cause glucose spike and trigger insulin reaction,because its got to low.
i know i feel awesome on it and have lost 6lbs in 12 days so far.
id really like to hear what others think.feasible or wishfull thinking?i know ive not been impressed with the medical profession so far.a doctor who didnt bother to properly warn me and a nhs dietitian who advised a diet high in wholemeal bread rice and pasta.
 
Hi minexplorer and welcome to the forum :)

Here is some basic information which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi. You've come to the right site, so welcome. Some of the things you have been told are probably factually correct but others such as resting the pancreas etc have little proof and may or may not be valid. The dietician who told you to have a diet high in wholemeal carbs was simply wrong unless you want to make your diabetes worse; how do these people get into the 'profession'. Yes, wholemeal flour is better than white but carbs turn to glucose so you need to keep them low-ish and low-GI, high fibre. Many of the carbs you list are excellent such as pulses, seeds, nuts and so on; bread, rice and pasta generally aren't good. I wouldn't worry too much about exact meal timings but spreading the carbs out isn't a bad idea. Your sugar reading is just below the point at which sugar is dumped into the urine which might explain why you haven't has the normal list of symptoms which I had when diagnosed with readings into the 20s/30s. With luck little damage will have been done so far so do get the weight down and you may even be able to back-off the meds as long as you don't follow the dieticians advice! Yes, many of us have found GPs very unhelpful at diagnosis with patients left floundering which is why this site, hopefully, fills that gap with most of us having diabetes and sharing our knowledge and what each of us has found works. If you haven't yet got a meter do get hold of one.
 
Hi minexplorer !
I understand why you are so angry.
I didn't know much about diabetes either before my father was diagnosed with it, and now I am trying to find as much information about the subject as I can because I want to know how I can best take care of him.
Still, I am surprised it took so long to confirm diagnosis !
Between the moment my father was told he had a risk of diabetes and the moment it was confirmed passed only 3 weeks. How come it took you 10 months ?
I wish you much courage and patience. Family is here to help too.
 
Hi, Mineexplorer

Welcome to the forum. I am also very angry too!

You are doing the right thing by doing your research and posting in a forum like this.Don't get sucked into the 'NHS diabetes pathway' , drugs, drugs and more drugs. The good news for all of us is that there are people on this forum who have been diabetics for years and have managed to turn the condition around to their benefit, most of them without the help of the so called professionals.

I have suffered a similar situation as you. My blood test 2 years ago in May 2011 was 10.0 and it was not followed up and now I have diabetes confirmed only by a chance appointment with a locum doctor who had been going through my records, went to docs about a foot problem!). This shows total incompetence of the so called medical professionals at my surgery! ( This is the 3rd time, I have had serious health problems and suffered at the hands of incompetent GPs)

I refused meds also and i am on a low carb diet. I am waiting for the diabetic eye test appointment to come through. Make sure your docs contacts the local hospital for an appointment for this eye test. It will show if there is any damage to the retina. You will fnd more details about the test etc on other posts. I didn't have an appointment come though so I called the hospital myself.

Good luck in your journey, you have already made an excellent start. Keep posting on how you get on.

BS
 
Still, I am surprised it took so long to confirm diagnosis !
Between the moment my father was told he had a risk of diabetes and the moment it was confirmed passed only 3 weeks. How come it took you 10 months ?

well the 1st blood test came about because i was having some problems with abdominal bloating.the doctor only casually mentioned that my blood sugar was a little high at 6.8 and i should try and lose some weight.i now know that figure is the very last chance to get off before diabetes.which is why im angry he didnt make more of it.the 2nd test a year later only came about because i was getting thrush.without telling me why he sent me for a blood test.i now know thrush is a diabetes sign.
im finding it hard to consider myself as ill. ive never felt ill.in fact dumping all those starchy bloating carbs out of my diet has
been a real eye opener.i feel better than ever.
 
Hello

I was diagnosed on Friday with type 2. Although I knew it was coming it's still a shock. My mum has it and my sister too. I had been warned by my mum many times to loose weight and by the doctor too, but now it's confirmed I feel like it's my own fault as I did nothing to stop it. I'm 45 yes old, bmi is approx 45 and my diet is horrendous. I have had thrush and pains in my legs and ankles. Generally feeling not good right now. Stress and anxiety has been a big thing this weekend which has caused a lot of problems and my 6 yr old has been getting the brunt of it bless him. I'm not feeling a very good mum right now. Anyway, I have been on metformin for years as I have polycystic ovaries but they have increased the dosage. Waiting for my appt with the diabetic clinic and have been having my eyes checked as they have been monitoring me. Taken today off work to try and get my head sorted. I love bread, pasta and potatoes which I believe are now no nos. On the plus side the doctor said that my cholesterol is 5.3 and the bad fats are at a very low level which is very good to hear especially as my mum's arteries are furred up and she now has angina. That maybe also down to her smoking too but she hasn't smoked for about 20 years. I don't smoke. The doctor says it's better to treat at the beginning rather than being diagnosed 15 years time and damage has been done. Another bit of good news I guess.

All the best

Claire (ikklewabbit)

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