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Hi there I'm new to this so please excuse my ramblings. Last November I had a blood test for menopause and was shocked to be told I needed to see the diabetic nurse as I was borderline for diabetes. My blood sugar level was 42 and apparently if it gets to 48 that is diabetes. I was given a leaflet giving advice on diet and the nurse spoke to me about diet too, however I am left a little perplexed, how do I know if my blood sugar level has gone up/down as I have not been back for further tests? Also, understand the government was supposed to be rolling out a programme to tackle diabetes and yet when I ask about this nobody seems to know about it. Can anyone offer any advice please.
 
Welcome @Motherbear2016

Go back for that test .... you want your bloods done (your HBa1c) as November is far behind us. Until you see those results, we won't know what the next course of action might be, but I sure hope that dietary advice was appropriate. If you wish to let us know what you eat, that will help us a lot.
 
Hi,

42 is only a fraction over the non-diabetic level, which is 41 and under, so you have been caught early and have every chance of reducing this.

I imagine you will be called in for another test 12 months after your last one. This is generally the normal procedure for monitoring new pre-diabetic patients. If you cross the line to diabetic, you should have 3 monthly tests initially, then 6 monthly, and eventually when they decide you are stable and any meds you are on are suitable for you, you may move to annually.

In the meantime, you can ask for another test now, and/or you can buy your own glucose meter and keep an eye on things yourself. If you decide to buy a meter we will help you to use it to your best advantage. Be careful when looking for a meter. It isn't the cost of the meters that is important but the cost of replacement test strips as these can be very expensive depending on the make of meter you buy. Many meters are given away for free, but you pay an arm and a leg for the strips. Many of us on here use the Codefree meter as the strips are the cheapest around. Have a look here.

http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/

I will tag @daisy1 who has some good information for newcomers. Please read it and take note of the role of carbohydrates in our diets.
 
Thanks for your advice. I had thought of buying a meter to enable me to keep an eye on things myself so thanks a lot for the link for the meters/strips.
 
@Motherbear2016

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members, regardless if you are diagnosed as diabetic, pre-diabetic or not. I hope this will be useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. Do look at Daisy's diet advice and follow that if it's different from NHS advice; it often is, sadly. I think the news headlines about a tackling diabetes roll-out was just that i.e. a news headline. I'm afraid it will include current government diabetes diet advice which will make most of us worse if we followed it. Some surgeries like mine rely on the patient to make future bookings for blood tests and nurse review. I agree my next review date with my nurse at the appointment day and make suitable bookings with reception. Arrange any blood tests around 2 weeks before a review so the results are available. Yes, do get a meter.
 
Thanks for your advice. I had thought of buying a meter to enable me to keep an eye on things myself so thanks a lot for the link for the meters/strips.

That is an insurance policy you can initiate now (not a bad idea at all) but I was reluctant to say it, preferring instead to get a new round of bloods. If you've dodged the proverbial bullet, then that diet info is REALLY important. Cannot emphasise that enough.

Best of luck Mike
 
Welcome,
Having a meter to test is a great tool in knowing what foods effect you...
Having low/no white carbs (rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, white flours, all sugars) seems to help everyone's glucose levels. Either having very small amounts of these or cutting them out completely will help. It would depend on how they effect you.
Some people can tolerate low GI carbs such as brown rice, brown pasta, brown bread. Other people can not have these either. The only way for you to know is test.
Diet will go a long way in helping you. Good luck x
 
Hello @Motherbear2016, and welcome to the forum. At my surgery they didn't call me back for any further testing after the initial one. I can only guess that was because I was in the prediabetic range. I had to ask for a further test, and will do so again in June, which will be 3 months after the last one. Once I'm satisfied that my figures are looking ok, I'm happy to revert to annual testing.

If you do get your own meter and start testing, that will show your body's reaction to that meal, or certain foods, which is only one part of things. The test done by GP is the HbA1c, which is a different thing in that it gives an average reading over the past 2-3 months, concentrating, I believe, on the most recent 6 weeks or so. (I don't know all the technicalities, but I think it's explained in the links from Daisy1s info above).

In my case, the diet advice given by my GP was completely wrong, and ended up with me gaining about 2.1/2 st. in weight! :eek: - and a higher test result, although thankfully still in the prediabetic range.

Since I found this site, I've changed my eating habits and am now starting to get back to where I was before. So, I agree with @Mike D above, the right diet for you is really important.

Good luck with your journey, ( as they say ) :)
 
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