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Another Type 2 newbie.

sand10

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
hI
AM NEWLY DIAGNOSED AND on metformin 500 Bd. I keep forgetting the bedtime dose and am trying to eat a low carb diet. Have about 28 lbs to lose, but despite 3 structured exercise classes of 90 minutes each week plus daily walking of 45 mins at the fastest pace I can manage, have still hovered around 12 stone when I want to be 10. My Habc1 reading is 51 and I have just ordered a bgm as apparently I will only receive an annual assessment. I feel really confused and isolated as no one I know has type 2 and I would appreciate any advice. Desperate to get my Bglucose down and the weight Thank you.
 
hI
AM NEWLY DIAGNOSED AND on metformin 500 Bd. I keep forgetting the bedtime dose and am trying to eat a low carb diet. Have about 28 lbs to lose, but despite 3 structured exercise classes of 90 minutes each week plus daily walking of 45 mins at the fastest pace I can manage, have still hovered around 12 stone when I want to be 10. My Habc1 reading is 51 and I have just ordered a bgm as apparently I will only receive an annual assessment. I feel really confused and isolated as no one I know has type 2 and I would appreciate any advice. Desperate to get my Bglucose down and the weight Thank you.
Hi and welcome to the forum. Hopefully @daisy1 will be along to post the advice for newcomers.

In the meantime, if you follow the link in my signature, it will take you to a beginner's guide written by one of our low carbing members who took control of his blood glucose and weight by following a low carb diet :)
 
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Hi and welcome to the forum. Hopefully @daisy1 will be along to post the advice for newcomers.

In the meantime, if you follow the link in my signature, it will take you to a beginner's guide written by one of our low carbing members who took control of his blood glucose and weight by following a low carb diet :)
Thank you that is already a great help
 
hI
AM NEWLY DIAGNOSED AND on metformin 500 Bd. I keep forgetting the bedtime dose and am trying to eat a low carb diet. Have about 28 lbs to lose, but despite 3 structured exercise classes of 90 minutes each week plus daily walking of 45 mins at the fastest pace I can manage, have still hovered around 12 stone when I want to be 10. My Habc1 reading is 51 and I have just ordered a bgm as apparently I will only receive an annual assessment. I feel really confused and isolated as no one I know has type 2 and I would appreciate any advice. Desperate to get my Bglucose down and the weight Thank you.
Welcome to our merry band! There is lots of support and info here from people going through the same things.

You might want to take your metformin with meals, as it can be easier on your system and easier to remember to take. I think low carbing will help you lose weight. I lost 8 stone over a year that way. Exercise helps but I think low carbing helps much more.

Initially I aimed for 100g of carbs a day but I now find myself eating 50g a day and I feel great. Even 100-150g would probably help you lose weight so don't feel you need to reduce further unless you hit a plateau and it is practical for you to do so.
 
@sand10

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. This will help you with your levels and your weight. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. Although exercise is always good, you will find that the right diet will have the most effect. Do continue with the low-carbing. It may be worth discussing increasing the Metformin dose with the nurse. It does help with excess weight by reducing insulin resistance.
 
Hi and welcome. Although exercise is always good, you will find that the right diet will have the most effect. Do continue with the low-carbing. It may be worth discussing increasing the Metformin dose with the nurse. It does help with excess weight by reducing insulin resistance.
Thanks to all three of you who have replied. I will take the metformin with meals in future and am trying to get into carb counting- not easy unless its on a label I am never sure so mainly salad and above ground veg for the moment. Have always been really active so the current tyre at waist level and above! is a real pain and it is driving me mad that I can't seem to get rid of it.
I am so grateful for this forum -it felt a very lonely place before I discovered you all.
A further question has anyone come across the American "Destroy Diabetes programme?" It seems to rely on a fairly brutal detox of anything up to 4 weeks followed by an 8 week fairly severe low carb/veg diet. I am tempted but unsure although it claims to base itself on research done at Newcastle university in 2011. Any advice would be most welcome
 
There is an excellent book available on Amazon called Carbs & Cals. It is essentially a picture book, showing thousands of foods on plates. Each food is detailed with its weight and how many carbs/calories/fat/protein/fibre are contained in that weight. You soon get to recognise how much of the plate that portion of food covers so you can dispense with weighing foods after a while. Carb counting then becomes easy.
 
Thanks to all three of you who have replied. I will take the metformin with meals in future and am trying to get into carb counting- not easy unless its on a label I am never sure so mainly salad and above ground veg for the moment. Have always been really active so the current tyre at waist level and above! is a real pain and it is driving me mad that I can't seem to get rid of it.
I am so grateful for this forum -it felt a very lonely place before I discovered you all.
A further question has anyone come across the American "Destroy Diabetes programme?" It seems to rely on a fairly brutal detox of anything up to 4 weeks followed by an 8 week fairly severe low carb/veg diet. I am tempted but unsure although it claims to base itself on research done at Newcastle university in 2011. Any advice would be most welcome
You may want to ask for an HbA1c blood test at the 3 month point instead of waiting for a year. This will show you how things have gone with low carbing, and it's always good for HCPs to see our positive results, as it can help shift their mindset.

I tried to find out more about "diabetes destroyed" but couldn't get past a screen asking for my email address or $39, lol. "Detox" is a misnomer - there's no need to detox the body by taking supplements or eating/avoiding certain foods because the liver and kidneys do all the detoxing our bodies need. If the program is just about cutting carbs and calories, you can do that on your own anyway.
 
Thank you Catlady ( I'm a greyhound lady by the way!) I heard about this from a friend who paid up and downloaded the info for me.It concentrates a lot on informing us that Drs. in USA are in cahoots with drug companies who exploit diabetics etc etc, I rather think that is a marketing ploy I also remember someone advising me that juiced veg. was not a good idea because of the raid absorption rate? and yes I will ask for a test. Thank you.
 
There is an excellent book available on Amazon called Carbs & Cals. It is essentially a picture book, showing thousands of foods on plates. Each food is detailed with its weight and how many carbs/calories/fat/protein/fibre are contained in that weight. You soon get to recognise how much of the plate that portion of food covers so you can dispense with weighing foods after a while. Carb counting then becomes easy.
Thank you that will be a huge help!
 
Thank you Catlady ( I'm a greyhound lady by the way!) I heard about this from a friend who paid up and downloaded the info for me.It concentrates a lot on informing us that Drs. in USA are in cahoots with drug companies who exploit diabetics etc etc, I rather think that is a marketing ploy I also remember someone advising me that juiced veg. was not a good idea because of the raid absorption rate? and yes I will ask for a test. Thank you.
Juicing also removes fibre, which is one of the best parts of veges and fruit. And if the juice fast includes fruit, then there is a lot of sugar. "Detoxing" by juicing is just a marketing gimmick - all it means is low calories, often followed by bingeing.
 
Juicing also removes fibre, which is one of the best parts of veges and fruit. And if the juice fast includes fruit, then there is a lot of sugar. "Detoxing" by juicing is just a marketing gimmick - all it means is low calories, often followed by bingeing.
Thank you I have already learned such a lot from all of you, It is such a help and I no longer feel friendless and confused I am amazed by the courage of people who have battled for so long and still remain upbeat snd more importantly are generously sharing their knowledge and experience. Thank you so much
 
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