Any type 1 diabetics making use of cannabidol (CBD) for gylcemic control?

[Pete-the-diabetic-skete]

Hi all,

First post on the forum, i am hitting the half a year mark of being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, i have changed my diet and excersize patterns to ensure that i maintain my fitness and health for as long as possible, i have researched into many different aspects of treatment studied the mechanisms of the disease to try and understand it better, something which has came to my attention was the massive potential for CBD or cannabidol as a medicine to go alongside my 4 daily injections, this however has proven to be a nightmare because CBD is found within the Cannabis plant (which is scheduled as a class B substance within the UK meaning to access this you are regarded as a criminal) however it produces no "high" effects and the more research i find the more i can say that it looks like it may possibly be one of the most medicinal compounds for treating forms of autoimmune disorders, understand that type 1 diabetes is a failure in the immune system which causes the type 1 response which destroys β cells within the iselts of the pancreas which are responsible for the production of insulin, a multinational pharma called GW is based within the UK and has had several papers specific to diabetes which can be found here ( http://www.gwpharm.com/publications-1.aspx ) has indicated the theraputic benefits of CBD which modulate the immune system in a very positive light. i am not however an expert on the specifics of any of this however i have noticed a massive benefit from CBD rich strains of cannabis (alongside healthy diet and excersize) in keeping my blood sugars in check for up to 3 days after consuming edibles, my needs for insulin also decrease when i can get my hands on edible forms. i would like to know if anyone else has looked into this or is even aware of this?

many thanks
Pete!

 

[Pete-the-diabetic-skete]

http://www.projectcbd.org/conditions/diabetes-2/

here is another list of medical journals which relate to both type 1 and type 2

 

[Spiker]

I think this is one of the 'medical marijuana' uses that are put forward for Type 2s in some of the US states? But no personal experience other than the well known effect of 'erb on blood sugar.

 

[Pete-the-diabetic-skete]

the Reason why this is hard to get ahold of in terms of the illicit substances markets is due to the breeding programs which non medicinal users have aimed to increase the THC balance of the plant without paying any regards to the CBD content, most "standard" cannabis on the streets these are varieties of skunk which have increased thc production from around 8-15% in normal landrace plants (which hold a 1:1 ratio of CBD:THC) to a percentage of upwards of 25% THC content with the CBD percentages dwindling to below 1%, this is the reason why i can safely say that buying cannabis of the street to tackle illness is a complete waste of time. however if a state of prohibition was to be lifted we could import cannabis from a regulated supplier like Bedrocan (Dutch Cannabis producing Phrama) who offer specific strains of cannabis with THC and CBD content clearly labeled and regulated. Bediol (http://www.bedrocan.nl/english/products/bediol.html) which contains appr 6.3% THC and appr 8% CBD, would be available to UK users if the ban on importation was lifted. I have discussed my cannabis use with my diabetic doctor when attending clinics and the response i have received thus far is it cannot be controlled or regulated which is complete and utter nonsense. I personally feel that the issues regarding cannabis have always been directed at campaigns of scaremongering which has allowed pharmaceticals to maintain a massive cash cow from diabetic patients which generally increase overtime due to more and more insulin being needed, if this could help your body to stop attacking its own B cells would you not like to help your body help itself or would rather continue to replace what it fails to produce. a simple analogy to make this clearer is to look at your pancreas like a bathtub and your insulin as the water which fills that bathtub, if a bathtub has a hole in it would you continue to keep filling it with water as the hole grow's larger and larger or would you look to try and fix the hole. Im not saying that CBD will cure Diabetes but i have an overwhelming amount of scientific research to suggest that it may modulate your immune system in a way which slows down the attack of the b cells in your body allowing it a chance to repair itself somewhat and reduce the dependance on pharmaceutical medications which make your body feel like a machine rather than living breathing organism.

 

[rharding93]

Hi Pete,

I know this is an old thread but I wondered what your experience was using CBD?

I've been type 1 for 12 years and am about to start using CBD oil. Have had quite a lot of hypo anxiety in the past and while I'm hopeful that CBD will lower my insulin requirements I'm also a bit apprehensive of any sudden change in my doses.

Thanks,
Rachel

 

[Pete-the-diabetic-skete]

Hi Pete,

I know this is an old thread but I wondered what your experience was using CBD?

I've been type 1 for 12 years and am about to start using CBD oil. Have had quite a lot of hypo anxiety in the past and while I'm hopeful that CBD will lower my insulin requirements I'm also a bit apprehensive of any sudden change in my doses.

Thanks,
Rachel

Hi Rachel,

I had some mixed results with cannabis including CBD, i found that overall CBD didn't have much effect on blood sugars (i did feel slightly better when taking it) what was interesting was that i had found was that certain strains of cannabis would have a massively positive effect on my blood sugars but i can safely say that it was nor the THC or CBD but there must be some other cannabinoid which has this resulting effect.

I however could not say any more as the constant use of cannabis had negative effects on my mental health (not mention my blood sugars due to munchies) which has left me unable to use it for any medicinal purpose.

 

[rharding93]

Interesting that some strains affected you and others didn't. Did you notice a sudden drop in levels or just less up and down? Agreed some other cannabinoid or maybe terpenes are responsible? Also were you smoking/ingesting high cbd pot or taking oil? Understand the munchies and mental health problem, used to smoke alot myself and it did me no favours long term.

Rachel

 

[Jamesuk9]

Like everything, the key is moderation.

I find certain strains extremely beneficial for both glucose and BP control. Sativa moreso than indica which just welds me to the sofa.

Vaping flower seems far more beneficial than ingesting too.

 

[rharding93]

Thanks James, yeah a lot of people seem to have had this experience with different strains.. myself included when I used to smoke. Sadly sativas usually make me anxious and obviously there are legal restrictions on getting hold of herb/ it's hard to guarantee strains, so I'm more wondering about cbd oil specifically. Plus I find feeling high annoying in certain settings- studying etc, so I'd like to find something without the psychoactive effects.