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Any type 2's in optimum ketosis?

Baruney

Baruney

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I was diagnosed T2 August 2014 and would like to control my new BFF! through diet and exercise for as long as possible.

To that end I have embarked on a low carb lifestyle and upped my exercise regime. Well in saying that have started an exercise regime (not totally sedatory but not a committed exerciser) and have signed up to the Brighton marathon on 12th April running for the nspcc.

4 weeks to go now. Training has been going well and am doing just over 40 miles a week. I have to miss this week's long run as I've twinged my hamstring playing racketball earlier on in the week but can walk on it so will go for a long walk with the dog tomorrow.

On my training runs I run with a backpack as I have to have snacks and water for me and dog but obviously don't want to run the full marathon with that on my back as I'm carrying enough weight as it is.

Carb loaders get an easy ride in the marathons as funnily enough they are sponsored by energy/gel Co's and at Brighton they are chucking out 5 he's products ever mile or so.

I don't want to knock myself out of ketosis with these high carb products and as much as it pains me to pass on these freebies I will carry my own supplies round and am trying to be as light weight and efficent as possible.

To that end I have experimented with high5 zero and high5 xtreme tabs As they are very lightweight and there's loads of water on offer all the way round. Food/fuel is still a work in progress so would like any suggestions on low carb, non messy, portable, digestible, calorie rich snacks.

Last sunday I did a twenty mile race with pork scatchings and an atkins advantage bar. P'S s are good IMHO but the jury is out on the atkins bar. Nuts and anchovies have been used in training and next on the list are baby belt and salami. I'm also going to see if I can get some egg mayo into a squeezy tube - could be interesting.

So has anyone got any snack suggestions.

Also while we are at it can I get your thoughts on whether to take my testing kit with me or not. I do in training and the although I haven't tested in a race so far I have in training. The sensible side of me says take it but it 8s quite heavy.

Cheers in advance.
 
Get yourself a Dario for testing when out training as I assume you have a smartphone with you?

I have one and pack it into my bike saddle bag
It weighs about 40g (+/- 2g for lancets)
 
Thanks cyclist. It looks the business. I have a glucorx from the DN and have just bought a optium neo as it tests blood ketones as well and the strips though expensive are a lot cheaper than some of the others. Is your dario self funded or prescription?

Cheers.
 
If you don't take meds, don't bother testing during the marathon, 9bar flax bars are terrific for running, 2 fit into belt bag and I break them into threes as I need them, I disagree with the carb loaders having it easy because they hit the wall, the wall is basically the carbs running out, if you are using fat instead of carbs, you don't hit the wall, that's not to say you won't struggle lol but if it wasn't very hard, we wouldn't bother right?

I gave up on eating strategies and focussed on hydration and eating when hungry, don't take food from people because your knackered and things can't get worse, they can! I accepted a banana half at 20 miles once and it did me no good at all, incredible stitch and certainly didn't help my energy levels

Have some cashews in a pocket and nibble, if you running with a high heart rate, after 45 minutes the food goes straight to your muscles, it's effectively free food from a blood glucose point of view, if you burn it off, ie. Continue to run for 1-2 hours afterwards it will have zero effect on bg

You will have read about not going off too fast, I cannot emphasise how difficult it is not to do this, the excitement of the day is a powerful motivator, but your body won't thankyou later on in the race, work out a pace and try to stick to it, you can get pace wrist band at the registration expo, take three, your target time, you fall back time and your secret wish time, wear them and try to stick to the plan especially for the first 15 miles

Brighton is a terrific race! It has a bit of everything, crowds/no crowds, hills/flat stretches and awesome people encouraging you, London can be a bit too much with the crowds, one of my running gurus always chooses Brighton over London

Most of all enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!

When you cross that finish line, your life will change forever, you will be a different person, you will remember the magic forever.

Well done you!




Everything I've said is just my opinion, type 2, lchf
 
Cowboy said:
If you don't take meds, don't bother testing during the marathon, 9bar flax bars are terrific for running, 2 fit into belt bag and I break them into threes as I need them, I disagree with the carb loaders having it easy because they hit the wall, the wall is basically the carbs running out, if you are using fat instead of carbs, you don't hit the wall, that's not to say you won't struggle lol but if it wasn't very hard, we wouldn't bother right?

I gave up on eating strategies and focussed on hydration and eating when hungry, don't take food from people because your knackered and things can't get worse, they can! I accepted a banana half at 20 miles once and it did me no good at all, incredible stitch and certainly didn't help my energy levels

Have some cashews in a pocket and nibble, if you running with a high heart rate, after 45 minutes the food goes straight to your muscles, it's effectively free food from a blood glucose point of view, if you burn it off, ie. Continue to run for 1-2 hours afterwards it will have zero effect on bg

You will have read about not going off too fast, I cannot emphasise how difficult it is not to do this, the excitement of the day is a powerful motivator, but your body won't thankyou later on in the race, work out a pace and try to stick to it, you can get pace wrist band at the registration expo, take three, your target time, you fall back time and your secret wish time, wear them and try to stick to the plan especially for the first 15 miles

Brighton is a terrific race! It has a bit of everything, crowds/no crowds, hills/flat stretches and awesome people encouraging you, London can be a bit too much with the crowds, one of my running gurus always chooses Brighton over London

Most of all enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!

When you cross that finish line, your life will change forever, you will be a different person, you will remember the magic forever.

Well done you!




Everything I've said is just my opinion, type 2, lchf
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Yeeee ha. Thank you Cowboy some very wise words there and I will take heed and have a look at those bars too.

First marathon so all very excited. Thoughts at the moment is to treat it as a 20 mile warm up and 6.2 mile race! Plod along at 5 mph then decide what to do at the power station.

Last week did the lydd 20 miles with aim of 4 hours. Plan was plod to 15 and then decide what to do there. Came home at 3.51 so happy with that. But like you say I did go out faster than intended and my bpm was 10 higher than same pace during training - race nerves perhaps? Anyhow it felt like my training pace comfort level and ability to hold a conversation wise so Ok with that.

I am new to running so followed a walk to run training plan in the summer followed by a half marathon training plan for the ashford half in November 2014. Now on week 12 of the full marathon training plan and absolutely loving it. Sevenoaks 20 mile next week, paddock wood half week after, folkestone 10 week after that and then the big one. Am resting my hamstring but took it for a 7 mile walk today so am guessing no major damage and take it very easy for next week or so. The 20 miler is mainly for walkers rather than a race so options open there.

How do you test for ketosis - experience, Tight carb control, pee stix or blood ketones?

Cheers.
 
Your on such a wonderful journey, and doing amazingly well :)

I never tested for keytones, I follow(ed) Vlchf so I assume I was(am) in fat burning ketosis, I run non diabetic numbers nowadays on LCHF but still have no idea about my keytones
 
Tested my blood ketones after a 10 mile run with an optimum neo today. 2.8 so guess I am in the zone?
 
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