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Apparently I'm on my "honeymoon"?

becky.ford93

Well-Known Member
Messages
244
Location
Exeter
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi there,
I was diagnosed type 1 three months ago, after experiencing unbearable thirst, blurred vision in the evenings, and waking up to go to the loo 2-3 times a night. They said when I was first diagnosed I would probably go through a honeymoon phase (incredibly inaccurate choice of name) for up to a year. At the moment, I'm only taking 8 units of lantus basal insulin, and my carb ratio is 1:20 (Novorapid). I've been told to expect this to go up over time, I'm just wondering if anyone has had the same experience? Did you're "honeymoon phase" suddenly end, so your blood sugars shot up, or did it just disappear slowly over time?
 
Hey Becky,

I managed to have a honeymoon period for around 3 years without touching insulin when I was first diagnosed. It's not uncommon for diabetics to experience this when newly diagnosed - although apparently my length of honeymoon was seen as unusual!

I controlled my diabetes with diet and exercise but the effectiveness of this wore off over time and I had to go back on insulin and am now using it full time.
 
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Wow that's incredible!! Can't see myself coming off insulin anytime soon as I do still experience the occasional high but its nice to know this could last quite a while :)
 
Hi becky and welcome
I'll tag @daisy1 who will give you the advice that's given to all new comers.
Have a good look around the site lots of advice to be had and some good people on here that will help
I'm t2 and I'm not to up on type 1 but I'm sure if you ask for help someone will get back to you .
Keep well stay safe JJ
 
@becky.ford93

Hello Becky and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Becky
welcome to the forum:)
honeymoon period is a cr*p name to be fair for a ( you guessed it ) cr*p condition.
honeymoon can last anywhere from a few months to a few years and in reality all it means is that there is unpredictability in knowing what will happen when you test and inject -- should it worry you ?? NO -- as you get more used to yourself with this you will find you know how you feel blood sugar wise and you will naturally act accordingly ( ether an extra dose of insulin if a bit high or an extra bit of snack if a bit low )
I am hoping you are enjoying your time at UNI and that you rock out of there with a great degree and a fantastic future
well done for posting and joining us :cool:
 
Thank you, I hope so too! Things are pretty well regulated at the moment, I've started measuring post meal recently too to really get things down to a tee. I think what's scaring me most at the moment is the idea of night time hypos. I'm probably being irrational, as I always make sure my bloods are 7-8 before bed, but I always worry it'll drop too low without me waking. Should I be concerned?
 
As @himtoo says the Honeymoon Period can last months or even years in some cases, I've no idea how long mine lasted but just remember that my insulin doses were up & down before they eventually levelled out,
 
aww hun bless you:) --- sending a hug round to you {hug}
night time hypos are always there in the back ground but if you have faith in your abilities and are pretty good at measuring your carbs to insulin ratios you will be fine -- i have been doing this for nearly 43 years and I have no more than a couple / few hypos a year at night and I wake up and test and treat and go back to sleep with no bother.

rest easy young lady - you seem so totally switched on - and do remember you got oldies like me to fall back on for support if you think you need it - always here to help if I can. so proud of you for taking control and posting here

x
 
Hi there, I'm in pretty much the same situation as you, recently diagnosed, 6 weeks ago and my insulin needs have become less and less. I'm currently only having 1.5 units of levemir AM and 2.5 PM, and a bit of a haphazard 1:10, knock 1.5 off for my Humalog. I've been great this last two weeks and got my hypos under control (was having several) then today ate the same breakfast as always, same Humalog dose, same activity level and went from 8.2 down to 3.3 by lunch. It is soooooo frustrating!

I'm off to Glastonbury in 2 weeks and at this rate I'll be off the insulin all together as I'm advised to halve it while I'm there! ;)
 
enjoy glastonbury -- jealous here :D
 
As a recently diagnosed type 1 (8 weeks), great to see other young people with a really positive attitude about dealing with it, understanding and controlling the daily BG levels. Awesome :):headphone:
 
Hey Claire :) I find I have to have a snack between breakfast (7:45) and lunch (12:30) or it always drops too low. Its the compromise I've had to make for not having my levels shoot up after breakfast!
 
Ok so its my second week in to Type 1, so can offer no advice, whatsoever, as I seem to be going by the learn by doing (everything wrong) and not going by what every one says. But does everyone get this "honeymoon" period?
 
As far as I can tell, no. The irony of it being a honeymoon seems to be that its actually really unpredictable, there's people on here who've said they actually came off insulin for a period of time, which I definitely don't think will happen for me. Because my carb ratio is 1:20 I think that's probably a bit higher than most, so I assume this may be my honeymoon!
 
Hi BigRoddy
all you can do is be vigilant with your testing and look for differences in blood sugar levels when you get different results from doing the same things days or weeks or months ago ( and don't worry it does get easier to see and feel these patterns over time)

if your bloods start to run lower( or you go hypo too often ) than be aware and contact your dsn for some advice at your earliest opportunity:)
 
Yes, its defiantly very, interesting, times. Trying to balance this and also look out for a honeymoon.... Whatever you do dont tell my better half, she will get the wrong idea!
 
Hey Becky, I'm in the same boat as you, diagnosed 3 months, coming out of hospital I was on 14 units of levimer and approx 30 units novarapid throughout the day, now on 8 levimer and rarely take more than 5 units novarapid throughout the day, I'm fairly active, downloaded a pedometer and cover up to 20000 steps a day at work, train/play Gaelic football at least 3 times a week, my consultant told me a very good analogy where my remaining beta cells, which are still producing insulin, essentially the cause of the honeymoon period, were like an old work horse, if you work them hard, eating high carbs/sugar and little exercise the old horse will die, but help the old horse out, healthy diet, keep active etc. it will persevere a bit longer....I plan to keep the honeymoon period going as long as I can!!
 
Hey there, sounds like you're doing amazing!! I spend about an hour a day walking, but sadly not doing as well on the healthy diet side of things, at a very stressful point in life now with exams looming so I think I'll attempt to get on track better once thats over.
 
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