Yeah it's just an amino acid, I don't think it's a problem for most people. Some people however have a specific condition where they can't metabolize it, called Phenylketonuria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylketonuria), which is why I think they sometimes warn about its presence on some food labels.Are you able to expand on that, ie what is it about phenylalanine that you don't like?
I don't see a firm distinction between natural and artificial anything, as we are all part of the natural environment,
That makes logical sense. However, there is a problem when people choose medicinal products solely on the basis that they perceive them as natural, while products they perceive as unnatural are rejected, despite much better evidence of effectiveness and safety. Relating this back to sweeteners, I am comfortable using artificial ones because the information that is available to me suggests that they are not harmful enough for me to avoid, while sugar is harmful to me, because it raises my BG and contributes to weight gain. I prefer to consider the options according to adequate evidence rather than whether something is natural or not. I keep an open mind though, so if I see adequate evidence of harm, I'm prepared to change my behaviour.Yes I understand that. I was really talking about the distinction between compounds that have been present in commonly eaten foods for millennia as opposed to things that, prior to being synthesized in a laboratory in recent decades, had never before been ingested. Acute effects of single large doses aside, the former it seems would be much less likely to have any unforeseen consequences of long term usage than the latter.
Yes sure. I seem to snore and have more restless nights (although no longer the sleep apnoea) on the days that I have drinks with it in. I do not snore on those days when I do not drink it. No proof that that is the cause but is too freakingly coincidental for it not to be. My body just seems to not like it or something else that is in the drink along with it (who knows what other **** that put in it). So normally I just try to stick to teas and coffee. Oh BTW drinking it a lunch time doesnt seen to cause an issue so whatever it is has gone out my system by 12 hoursAre you able to expand on that, ie what is it about phenylalanine that you don't like?
Do you have a link to the source of that info? Because I'm skeptical about everything until I consider its source. Even if the assertions are true, I'm not sure what relevance they have, because I prefer to base my decisions on scientific studies.I have a question about aspartame, AKA Nutrasweet (in the UK anyway) and about to change it's name again, possibly because of it's reputation being affected by opinions voiced mainly on the internet. The question is:-
Why was a product that was refused FDA approval for several years suddenly approved when Ronald Reagan became president and appointed a new FDA director (Arthur Hayes Hull) who overrode the recommendations of the FDA's own scientists, granting approval? I know it was only coincidence (was it) that Donald Rumsfeld was the CEO of GD Searle (developer and manufacturer of aspartame) at the time, his career is well documented, as is his vow to "call in his markers" when approval had originally be refused. Rumsfeld became Secretary for Defense and Hull left the FDA under allegations of impropriety, later taking a position with Burston-Marsteller, the chief public relations firm for both Monsanto and GD Searle (Monsanto acquired Searle in '85).
So, nothing to be concerned about there then.
Hi Noblehead,
Funny you mention this stuff.. & the barley version too.? (I was going to bring this up at some point?)
"Real fruit in every drop" on the front of the packaging.
We keep it in the house. My wife likes it as a "night drink" by the bed. But I hardly drink it anymore..
I feel it raises my BG slightly.? Especially since sorting my basal..
Probably drink 3-4 glasses a day of the Robinson's No Added Sugar range @Jaylee, the one I like the best is the Orange & Mango flavour which has 0.7g of carbs per 100ml of concentrate, can't say I've noticed any bg rise.
That makes logical sense. However, there is a problem when people choose medicinal products solely on the basis that they perceive them as natural, while products they perceive as unnatural are rejected, despite much better evidence of effectiveness and safety. Relating this back to sweeteners, I am comfortable using artificial ones because the information that is available to me suggests that they are not harmful enough for me to avoid, while sugar is harmful to me, because it raises my BG and contributes to weight gain. I prefer to consider the options according to adequate evidence rather than whether something is natural or not. I keep an open mind though, so if I see adequate evidence of harm, I'm prepared to change my behaviour.
Do you have a link to the source of that info?
You shouldn't have grapefruit, if on statins.Orange & mango. I know the one!
I'm more inclined to opt for pink grapefruit.. More tart to my taste.
Normally have a couple of glasses during the course of home maintenance or a glug after a hot day coming in from work!
Blood wise. It seems to stabilise or slow down what would/could have been a drop, till I manage to eat..?
You shouldn't have grapefruit, if on statins.
I know you shouldn't have it on some blood pressure meds.You shouldn't have grapefruit, if on statins.
So, no link then.Apart from the fact that when I met my wife in the early 80s, she and at least 10 of our joint friends all worked for G.D. Searle while all of this was going on, so I remember it from then. I remember them all being so happy when approval was obtained because they were surprised but delighted that the financial future of G.D. Searle was assured. There's a good article on the history of it's development written by Arthur M. Evangelista, a former FDA Investigator, but it's worth having a Google. You can decide which bits to believe and which bits to ignore. Obviously key words should include things like "aspartame", "Reagan", "FDA", "Rumsfeld" and in whatever combination takes your fancy.
You shouldn't have grapefruit, if on statins.
So, no link then.
I'm not going to bother googling for the evidence that should be provided to back up a claim that's made. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. I find claims about the danger of artificial sweeteners to be conspiracy-theory based.There are many and I'm inviting you to look at them by using the keywords I've suggested, it's not difficult. That way, as I have already said, you can make your own mind up whether you believe the link or not. I have suggested an article written by Arthur M. Evangelista called "History of Aspartame", that's a good place to start. If you then Google his name and the word "aspartame" there is a page with loads of links, the very first link contains further links to other articles that he has written.
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