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Emzie_86

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So about 6 months ago I had the hba1c (is that right) blood test done. Dr said I was pre diabetic with a result of 45 told me I needed to change my diet, did I listen? No!!
Went for a repeat hba1c on Tuesday and rang up the Drs surgery to see if my results are back. Receptionist says yes and that the Dr wants me to book in with him and the nurse. I'm assuming my results are now showing I'm diabetic since I have to see a nurse to.
I honestly don't no how I am going to cope with changing my eating habits. I LOVE food and cake and wine and Pepsi max. Am I going to have to give it all up? I'm always hungry and I'm grumpy when I'm hungry.
I don't no to much about diabetes so I don't feel to worried by it (should I be?). What does worry me is the bits I do no scare me. I'm worried about my feet. I don't want to get feet like I've seen, I don't want to loose any toes or anything. Do you have to tell people your diabetic? Work? When going on holiday?
 
Hi @Emzie_86 and welcome to the forum :)

I'm going to tag @daisy1 as she has some excellent information that you should find useful.
 
Hello and welcome,

As you don't know much about diabetes, now is the time to start learning. You need to read up as much as you can about Type 2 diabetes, what it means and what can happen IF you don't control it. If you do control it, you can live a normal and long life, and die with both your feet intact! Diet is the key, so I'm afraid all those sugary drinks and cakes must go out of the window, but the good news is, you can still drink red wine. (or a very dry white) :)

Have a good read of Daisy's post when it arrives, and note the role of carbohydrates in the diet. They can be just as bad as sugary stuff so need to be eaten with caution, or not at all.

No need to worry, this forum is a good place to learn all about it, so please ask questions and read, read, read.
 
I am a foodie, too, so I am with you!! The beginning was scary and now, after a few weeks I am not that anxious any more. Regarding the food, yes, it took me some time since my first high HbA1c. First I got rid of the sweets, then of the dried fruits, then cut down on simple carbs altogether, etc etc. I am still somewhat new here, but I am not craving sweets any more. Many cakes, especially those from the supermarket or coffee shops, taste awfully artificial. Instead, I want hearty, natural foods such as cheese, veggies, slow-cooked meat, nuts and seeds (hm... tahini... :woot:)

Take your time, my first week after the diagnosis was terrible, but I am sure you will arrive at a new 'normal', too.

Wish you a lot of strength!! :)
 
@Emzie_86

Hello Emzie and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members, as mentioned above, which should help you to control your levels and especially learn about carbohydrates which you need to cut down on. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
So about 6 months ago I had the hba1c (is that right) blood test done. Dr said I was pre diabetic with a result of 45 told me I needed to change my diet, did I listen? No!!
Went for a repeat hba1c on Tuesday and rang up the Drs surgery to see if my results are back. Receptionist says yes and that the Dr wants me to book in with him and the nurse. I'm assuming my results are now showing I'm diabetic since I have to see a nurse to.
I honestly don't no how I am going to cope with changing my eating habits. I LOVE food and cake and wine and Pepsi max. Am I going to have to give it all up? I'm always hungry and I'm grumpy when I'm hungry.
I don't no to much about diabetes so I don't feel to worried by it (should I be?). What does worry me is the bits I do no scare me. I'm worried about my feet. I don't want to get feet like I've seen, I don't want to loose any toes or anything. Do you have to tell people your diabetic? Work? When going on holiday?
Don't worry you have found this forum and there are lots of good people here with good advice, you will never be hungry if you eat properly. Follow the advice you get ask lots of questions and read, read and read more. You will be surprised at how much you can eat, even cake but not Mr Kipling but cake that will do you no harm. Have a look at the recipe threads, loads of yummy things on there, let us know what your results are and welcome aboard
 
You will be very confused by the dietary advice dogma handed out by the NHS. The NHS official line is it is OK to eat starchy carbohydrates such as pasta as long as you cut out eating sugar, but as many on here will tell you starchy carbs are just slow release sugar and carbs don't satisfy they actually make you hungry.

For many on the forum classed a type 2s and pre-diabetics the answer is eat meals that are "Low Carbohydrate but High Fat (and oils), it really isn't a a big deal not so much a diet as apart from obvious sugars it is simply giving a wide berth to less obvious things like breads, rice, breakfast cereal, and eating only small amounts of vegetables that grow under the ground.

The rest of what you eat is pretty much the same but it will go against much of what have been told to think of as healthy eating.
Wine and Pepsi Max (or Coke Zero) are OK in moderation as are berries and in small amounts some other fruits..
 
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Hi and welcome. Now is the time to take stock and change if you want to avoid all the bad things that cna happen in the longer-term. Forget all the TV baking programs and similar books. They are full of carbs. If you want to bake, bake fish, meat etc. The reason you feel hungry is because of all the carb you eat. Repalce most of these with proteins and fats as well as fruit and veg and you will feel full for longer. Stop any sugary drinks and have the diet versions. Cake is OK occasionally such as fruit cake with little or no added sugar and certainly no icing on top. Try Molly cake (Google it). Diabetics managing them selves with just diet or diet plus the tablet Metformin don't need to let anyone know as they won't suffer very low blood sugar and and 'hypo'. You do need to tell your travel insurer and car insurer.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. Have a good look around as there is a wealth of information and it's definitely not the end of good food, far from it. There are many alternative recipes out there for cakes ect and pepsi max is fine as it is sugar free. It takes time to get your head around everything but you are in the right place as we are all speaking from personal experience. Diabetes is a very personal journey and what may work for one may not work for another and if you think it will be too difficult to cut out everything you love just try cutting down on your portion sizes to begin with and go from there.
 
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