Yep,I'm boxing my entire ABBA collection up this very minute to be banished to the loft in protest.... :crazy:noblehead said:Those pesky Swedes what do they know!
Paul1976 said:Yep,I'm boxing my entire ABBA collection up this very minute to be banished to the loft in protest.... :crazy:noblehead said:Those pesky Swedes what do they know!
Paul1976 said:Yep,I'm boxing my entire ABBA collection up this very minute to be banished to the loft in protest.... :crazy:noblehead said:Those pesky Swedes what do they know!
No more than any-one else.noblehead said:Those pesky Swedes what do they know!
http://www.thelocal.se/41272/20120605/“How much fat or carbohydrates you eat is of less importance. The important thing is that the fat should come from vegetables. It shouldn’t be full-fat dairy products or animal fat. And the carbohydrates should be from wholemeal, fruit and vegetables, not refined flour and sugar,” said Irene Mattisson from the National Food Agency (Livsmedelsverket) to news agency TT.
“How much fat or carbohydrates you eat is of less importance. The important thing is that the fat should come from vegetables. It shouldn’t be full-fat dairy products or animal fat” said Irene Mattisson from the National Food Agency (Livsmedelsverket) to news agency TT.
Men and women in northern Sweden decreased their reported fat intake in the first 7 years (1986–1992) of an intervention program. After 2004 fat intake increased sharply for both genders, which coincided with introduction of a positive media support for low carbohydrate high-fat (LCHF) diet. The decrease and following increase in cholesterol levels occurred simultaneously with the time trends in food selection, whereas a constant increase in BMI remained unaltered. These changes in risk factors may have important effects on primary and secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease (CVD).
Sid Bonkers said:Who would have thought that a 25 year study of LCHF would be rubbished by those eating it, I didnt see that coming :lol:
borofergie said:Here's Fergie's simple guide to beating the Atkins Haters
jopar said:But aren't we forgetting that they noted the increase of cholesterol lower medication, which has been included but cholesterol is still going up?
jopar said:If you look at the 2 recent studies for diabetes for T1 and T2 using low carb diets (T1 was 75g>) that at 3/6 months yes the VLC did have the advantage on weight loss, but compared to the LF diet the cholesterol had risen.. Now at 24 months, within the VLC diet weight had slowly increased from the initial weight lose at 3/6 months to almost back to the original start of the trial... The both diets had a rise in cholesterol, but only slightly, and this was a very small increase in DHL's but ratio's remained the same! The Canadians found similar 2 year results..
jopar said:After all carbs have gone down in consumption, fat's are up but still problems going on... So in my mind eye there something else underneath all this, that effects how these different ingredients react together which isn't portion based!
Yes, that's the real killer. We always have to look very closely at these studies. They will often monkey around with the 'fat' % number but the carb number stays constant or increases. The deadliest diet is the high carb/high fat - and, of course, any diet with HF as a centerpiece for a person with genes to produce small dense particle LDL. There are so many broad sweeping conclusions people make for their lives with regard to saturated fat intake without finding out 'their own lipid genetic profile'. Now - no - I haven't read about any new tests. BUT - you can do a VAP test which tells you a lot about the particle size of your LDL and VLDL. If you come out A/B even split or B particle high - then you are playing Russian roulette with your heart to eat LCHF.borofergie said:I will happily admit that for non-diabetics, that a low-fat diet is massively superior than a high-carb/high-fat diet, which is the worst of all worlds.
Icelandic cuisine, the cuisine of Iceland, has a long history. Important parts of Icelandic cuisine are lamb, dairy, and fish, due to Iceland's proximity to the ocean. Popular foods in Iceland include skyr, hangikjöt (smoked lamb), kleinur, laufabrauð and bollur. Þorramatur is a traditional buffet served at midwinter festivals called Þorrablót and containing a selection of traditionally cured meat and fish products served with rúgbrauð (dense dark and sweet rye bread) and brennivín (an Icelandic akvavit). Much of the taste of this traditional country food is determined by the preservation methods used; pickling in fermented whey or brine, drying and smoking.
Modern Icelandic chefs usually place an emphasis on the quality of the available ingredients rather than age-old cooking traditions and methods. Hence, there is a number of restaurants in Iceland that specialise in seafood and at the annual Food and Fun chef's competition (since 2004) competitors create innovative dishes with fresh ingredients produced in Iceland. Points of pride are the quality of the lamb meat, seafood and (more recently) skyr. Other local ingredients that form part of the Icelandic chef's store include seabirds and waterfowl (including their eggs), salmon and trout, crowberry, blueberry, rhubarb, Iceland moss, wild mushrooms, wild thyme, lovage, angelica and dried seaweed as well as a wide array of dairy products.
Animal products dominate Icelandic cuisine. Popular taste has developed, however, to become closer to the European norm, and consumption of vegetables has greatly increased in recent decades while consumption of fish has diminished.[1] Fresh lamb meat remains very popular while traditional meat products, such as various types of sausages, have lost a lot of their appeal with younger generations.
NewdestinyX said:Though, as many of you remember, I'm VERY sympathetic to the cause of 'LCHF' for the treatment of Diabetes - sometimes we get too myopic and focus our whole lives on controlling our D - when there are other health factors that have to be balanced. TO be sure - NO one can make an intellectually honest argument against LCHF diets being able to control blood sugar levels. They can and do - in every case -in every human that sticks to them. But that's not the 'entirety' of the issue. It's those da*mn genes that can make the the whole HF thing pretty risky.
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