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Type 2 B/g level in morning

flyingangel69

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi, I wonder if you would all be kind enough to help me?
I am type 2 on metformin (one a day)
For the last two mornings my level has been 9.5. Does this mean my meds are not working?
Thank you in advance.
 
Hi, I wonder if you would all be kind enough to help me?
I am type 2 on metformin (one a day)
For the last two mornings my level has been 9.5. Does this mean my meds are not working?
Thank you in advance.
Hi @flyingangel69 .. and welcome
Are these levels fasting? .. if so, they do seem high. This could be your meds or it could be that a low-carb diet will help.
@daisy1 will be sending you useful information shortly and you can be assured that you are now part of a forum that will give you a wealth of info, advice and support
Hope this helps
 
Yes, fasting level. First thing in the morning.
I have had no nutritional advice at all and my diabetes nurse is useless, I asked for an appointment last week and was told the earliest one was after the may bank holiday!!
I feel that I was given my diagnosis and rushed out of the door and nothing since.
Thank you for your help.
 
Hi
You could be experiencing dawn phenomenon where the liver dumps glucose out to get you going in the morning. I find eating something lowers it quite quickly.
As to the rest you won't get much help except go on meds, eat plenty of carbs and get your eyes and feet checked.
The carbs is a bad idea. Look at reducing your carbs and treat the diabetes as carb intolerance. Find out which carbs upset you the most by blood glucose testing . I can eat potatoes in small quantities but flour sends me through the roof.
The guidelines are flawed and a lot of people have got control by ignoring some or all of the advice.
Read loads on this forum. Look at YouTube Sara Hallberg. Diet doctor great site for recipes.
 
Thank you again. Will look into low carb diet as I need to lose weight also.
You were spot on with the help I received from surgery.
I was told that bananas are a definite no and any fruit I eat should fit on the palm of my hand, thought fruit was good for you? Just so confused right now.
 
Each one of us is different. I can eat half a banana with double cream on it does little because of the cream.
I was only diagnosed before xmas after years of following nhs advice because I have PCOS which makes me insulin resistant. So I have gone down the LCHF route because the metformin makes me violently ill. So I have no choice but to get control. For the first time in 25 yrs I have managed to loose some weight about 10lbs. That may not sound much but believe me I have tried some really stupid diets in my time. I am eating butter ,cream ,cheese ,eggs, oil dressings and not counting calories. I had blood test on Tuesday will get the results tomorrow. Hopefully I have made an impact on my Hba1c.
All the reading I have done has shown the the NHS are not tackling this the right way. Read Dr David Unwin GP who has gone against NHS advice and has had some great results.
 
Thanks for advice. I have had no information from surgery on what I can or can't eat, tbh they have done only 2 HBA1c tests in two and a half years.
I am obviously going to have to do my own research. Am grateful for advice here of course. Thanks again
 
Thanks for advice. I have had no information from surgery on what I can or can't eat, tbh they have done only 2 HBA1c tests in two and a half years.
I am obviously going to have to do my own research. Am grateful for advice here of course. Thanks again

All carbohydrates convert to glucose once inside the system, so it makes sense not to eat too many. Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, cereals (including porridge) and anything containing flour are the worst culprits. Fruit is also very difficult for us because the fructose not only raises our blood glucose levels but also contributes towards a fatty liver. Milk is another difficult food because of the lactose.

This will help you. (and follow the links)

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds

If you use your meter to test before you eat and again 2 hours after first bite and keep a food diary including portion sizes, then record your levels alongside the food, you will see patterns emerging and be able to see which carbs are causing you the problems, and which could be eaten in small portions. This is called "eating to your meter" and is the very best way to control your diabetes. Your fasting BG isn't as important as your meal testing whilst you are learning. Once you are in the swing of things you can add other tests, such as 60 minutes and 90 minutes after first bite, or even continuing after the 2 hour mark to see how long it takes you to return to where you started.
 
Will give that a try, thank you. It's far more complicated than just giving up sugar which is what I thought I was meant to do
 
I am on a diet which flies in the face of all advice on 'healthy' eating - yet my numbers are heading towards normal or good after just a couple of months. I can't eat high carb foods - but I am not complaining, as I seem to flourish on what I can eat without showing double figures on my glucose meter.
I can't eat grains, most legumes, starchy vegetables such as potatoes, sweet fruits - but I manage very well as I did Atkins for a very long time - probably delayed the diagnosis of diabetes for decades.
I tend to sleep badly - my husband disturbs me several times a night, so I sleep late, rise late in the morning and then eat a salad, have coffee with cream and perhaps a snack a bit later, then dinner in the evening, but I can eat any meat or fish, shellfish - all sorts of leafy salad and vegetables, eggs and cheese, and various low carb fruits including berries and melon.
Carbohydrates are what you need to limit, as starches turn into sugars, and end up in your blood as glucose, which is not a good thing.
 
@flyingangel69

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helps you. Ask questions when you want and someone will be able to reply.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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