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Yesterday my oldest daughter and I tackled the conservatory. My son is 17, and has autism, he had filled the room with things that to me are rubbish, but are not to him. After many warnings I had had enough, and we gutted the room! (there is a point to all this.) When he got home he went mental with me. He is a tall strong lad, and can be scary. Sadly I did what I always do, and turned to chocolate because I was upset and frightened.

I ate in excess of 2000, yes 2000, calories of near total sugar. A quick count of carbs comes to over 250gs. After two hours my BG was 6.4. This morning it is 5.4. How can this even be possible? When I was diagnosed my fasting levels were plus 10, and after the glucose drink was 24. While I understand I have reduced my readings through strict control of garb intake, surely I would see a raise in numbers of over 10?

Can someone explain this to me please?
 
Not sure about your glucose levels but I'm sending hugs as I know how hard it is when a child with Autism has a meltdown,my 11 year old daughter keeps lots of random collections in her bedroom and it gets quite untidy but if you tidy up and move anything out of align,she explodes with rage and it's very upsetting to watch! :(
 
I've no idea about your readings, but you sound to have had a day and a half of it yesterday. I hope today is calmer for you.
 
Thanks Paul and Didie.

The trouble is with my son is he is a man now, and is getting stronger and taller every day. Fingers crossed he comes home in a better frame of mind. I can do without his mood swings today. As for his bedroom, you cannot put a foot down without stepping on bits of engines or electrical stuff. I swear the ceiling will come through one day!
 
It's difficult to say. A combination of stress, plus exercise, plus good old unpredictability.

Doesn't really matter though does it? Everyone falls off the waggon once in a while. Put it behind you and refocus...

(I have two autistic kids by the way, so I know where you are coming from).
 
Hi,

((((hugs)))) for you.

I wonder if the anger and upset you were feeling resulted in the choc feast being burned off? We all have different physiological responses to stress and some find lower and some higher blood sugars.
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Hope you enjoyed the choc and things are calmer indoors now.
 
All 3 of mine are on the spectrum ranging from Aspergers to Kanner syndrome and all 3 are completely unique how they are affected but I wouldn't swap them for anything because each day they make us smile and I'm really proud of how much they have achieved! :D
 
Crikey. If being upset makes me burn off chocolate, I am delighted!!!! I was very upset, and still feel fragile today. It makes you wonder.

I wonder if there is any link between autism and diabetes? There are the strangest ones around, so it isn`t beyond the realms of possibility. I think my youngest has aspergers as well, but trying to get a diagnosis is near impossible in my area. The time line given is so long she will have left school by the time she reaches the top of the list.

My two are very gifted Paul. My son is amazing at all things engines, and my daughter is an artist beyond compare in her year, and many above as well.
 
Jeannemum said:
I wonder if there is any link between autism and diabetes? There are the strangest ones around, so it isn`t beyond the realms of possibility. I think my youngest has aspergers as well, but trying to get a diagnosis is near impossible in my area. The time line given is so long she will have left school by the time she reaches the top of the list.

My two are very gifted Paul. My son is amazing at all things engines, and my daughter is an artist beyond compare in her year, and many above as well.
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There maybe a link between autism and diabetes, but I think it's more likely that there is some other environmental factor that is causing the "autism epidemic". I'm Chairman of Governors for an Outstanding school for students with Special Educational Needs. 15 years ago those on the autistic spectrum made up a very small part of the school population - now they account for over half (displacing those with less severe learning diabilities into mainstream education). Something big is at play somewhere.

As for your son liking engines, Simon Baron Cohen thinks that there is a link between engineers and autism (and working in engineering, I'm inclined to agree):
http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/docs/papers/1997_bcetal_engineer.pdf
 
borofergie said:
Jeannemum said:
I wonder if there is any link between autism and diabetes? There are the strangest ones around, so it isn`t beyond the realms of possibility. I think my youngest has aspergers as well, but trying to get a diagnosis is near impossible in my area. The time line given is so long she will have left school by the time she reaches the top of the list.

My two are very gifted Paul. My son is amazing at all things engines, and my daughter is an artist beyond compare in her year, and many above as well.
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There maybe a link between autism and diabetes, but I think it's more likely that there is some other environmental factor that is causing the "autism epidemic". I'm Chairman of Governors for an Outstanding school for students with Special Educational Needs. 15 years ago those on the autistic spectrum made up a very small part of the school population - now they account for over half (displacing those with less severe learning diabilities into mainstream education). Something big is at play somewhere.

As for your son liking engines, Simon Baron Cohen thinks that there is a link between engineers and autism (and working in engineering, I'm inclined to agree):
http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/docs/papers/1997_bcetal_engineer.pdf
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Didn`t they also find a link between computers as well?

I used to go to loads of conferences on the spectrum when my son was first diagnosed (he has classic autism) and one speaker said chemicals could have a lot to blame. There is also genetics. There are so many families with more than one child on the spectrum. Both of my youngest have adhd as well. I have noticed that is common for both conditions to co exist. When my son was diagnosed, just before he was three, I was determined to do anything to help him reach his full potential. We did Lovaas or ABI, or ABA, they change the name of that by the minute. He went from only being able to go to a special needs school, to mainstream with help.

Off to read your link. Thanks for that :)
 
Jeannemum
The fat content of the chocolate probably saved you
Hana
 
Is there more autism, or more being diagnosed,?
I remember one child from very first teaching practice who I suspect had autism but was at the time labelled as merely 'odd' ... and his classmates would protect and defend him from others. It was only later in my career that I began to see children labelled with some form of autism; and there were others that should have been statemented but didn't have parents willing or able to fight through the system.
I'm positive that my son would have been diagnosed at the milder end of the spectrum if he had been born later. I won't go into the specifics but it wasn't until he reached the sixth form that he showed any degree of fitting in at school.
He now works as a research physicist at Oxford. He fits in fine there. He is married, his wife has similar traits she's a chemist.
They are a well matched couple but I do sometimes worry about my 2 year old grandson's rather unconventional upbringing.
( I've just scanned the paper. Interestingly, my OH was an aeronautical engineer, and D in law's father is also an engineer)

Jeannemum, glad that your chocolate didn't cause BG problems. Sometimes when I'm very anxious I get hypos so yes, I can see it 'burning off' an excess.
 
Asd's are common in my family on my paternal side,interestingly my Great grandfather was an engineer,my grandfather also and also my father who all worked at Rolls Royce Derby.I worked myself as a service Engineer until ill health forced me to take voluntary redundancy.My brother has Aspergers like me and 2 of his children have Autism also.I am the only Diabetic in the family although Autoimmune conditions are very common.
 
I never knew my father or any of his history, but my granddad worked in what is now British Aerospace. My brother is an engineer, but we have different dads. I know there is no engineering as such from my ex husbands family, but, like my Granddad and uncles, they were forever tinkering with cars and motor bikes. Funny old world isn`t it.
 
stripping and restoring small motorbikes has always been my thing but my son is computer,IT and gaming obsessed and over 2 years ahead in IT at school,but he is very passive and quiet whereas my daughter is the creative one,very imaginitive at art and loves dancing,but has behavourial problems and other learning difficulties,My youngest is obsessed with her trampoline and watching and repeating TV adverts but is always happy as long as she's in her own little 'Bubble'.
 
I'm gonna say here exactly what I said to you yesterday. "Honey stop it! One day will do no harm at all. It's not easy to stick to this every single day, and you are doing amazing (((Jeanne))) xx" Today is another day, and one day off the wagon since diagnosis is good going.
 
Paul1976 said:
stripping and restoring small motorbikes has always been my thing but my son is computer,IT and gaming obsessed and over 2 years ahead in IT at school,but he is very passive and quiet whereas my daughter is the creative one,very imaginitive at art and loves dancing,but has behavourial problems and other learning difficulties,My youngest is obsessed with her trampoline and watching and repeating TV adverts but is always happy as long as she's in her own little 'Bubble'.
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You certainly can`t put them in a slot can you Paul. They are all so different :)
 
Defren said:
I'm gonna say here exactly what I said to you yesterday. "Honey stop it! One day will do no harm at all. It's not easy to stick to this every single day, and you are doing amazing (((Jeanne))) xx" Today is another day, and one day off the wagon since diagnosis is good going.
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I have left it behind me Def, I was just wondering how I could have such good readings after my feast ;)
 
Jeannemum said:
Paul1976 said:
stripping and restoring small motorbikes has always been my thing but my son is computer,IT and gaming obsessed and over 2 years ahead in IT at school,but he is very passive and quiet whereas my daughter is the creative one,very imaginitive at art and loves dancing,but has behavourial problems and other learning difficulties,My youngest is obsessed with her trampoline and watching and repeating TV adverts but is always happy as long as she's in her own little 'Bubble'.
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You certainly can`t put them in a slot can you Paul. They are all so different :)
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They sure are! The house is full of individual visual schedules for the kids that are stuck on walls,doors etc and there's different routines which can be hard early in the morning when you're half asleep but all in all,even though the neighbours think we're oddballs,we're harmless and happy as we are! :wink:
 
Maybe you're showing an improved first phase insulin response - I believe that's from stored insulin. So maybe you've built up a store over time due to still-functioning or reviving beta cells. Unless your beta cells are now in tip-top shape, though, that advantage is probably a temporary one as the problem would start again with more carbs than the body can store ready-to-go insulin for, which tends to diminish over time as it tries to play "catch-up" and falls farther and farther behind. I think. Still new at this. :?
 
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