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Baffled

No it isn't great shelts. That said, it could be a LOT worse than that so don't worry.

.... should be around 5.5 or lower.

The one and two hour reading will be interesting

Mike
 
I should have underlined that point about the 7.0 reading. Starting out on this journey, it's OK. The aim is to get it down over time thru diet and exercise and weight loss (if and how they apply to you)

I'd guarantee my figures when I was diagnosed were a lot worse than that :) So again, don't worry

Mike.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Pre-meal should be under 6, and post meal no more than 2mmol/l higher than pre-meal (preferably under 1.5)
Have you done your 2 hour test yet?
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Totally deflated now :(

I was looking at the NICE guidelines quoted by Daisy earlier in the thread about pre and post test and was in the right range. Post meal was 8.2
 
shelts said:
Totally deflated now :(

I was looking at the NICE guidelines quoted by Daisy earlier in the thread about pre and post test and was in the right range. Post meal was 8.2
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Deflated shelts? Why? MANY T2s (starting out mind you) would like those numbers rather than double figures PROVIDED they can eliminate foods that don't work for them.

Was that your 2 hour reading? What did you eat?
 
shelts said:
Totally deflated now :(

I was looking at the NICE guidelines quoted by Daisy earlier in the thread about pre and post test and was in the right range. Post meal was 8.2
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your post meal 8.2 is already within the diabetic target, so you can stop there if you want to..a lot try to get back to normal numbers, to try and keep the pancreas in good nick for as long as possible.

it really does take upto a couple of months for a LC diet to work through your system, there are hormones and such that change, they even talk about gene expression.
having single digits at this stage is good :)
 
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shelts said:
I did my first pre meal test today and it was 7.0 mmol. Is this ok? I need to test in 2 hours to see what it is then.
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If you were 8.2 2 hours after your BS was raised by only 1.2 which is good so you're on the right track. It's early days yet for you yet but once your new eating regime begins to take affect you should see it come down. You are doing well so keep going and you'll get there
 
shelts said:
Totally deflated now :(

I was looking at the NICE guidelines quoted by Daisy earlier in the thread about pre and post test and was in the right range. Post meal was 8.2
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Please don't feel deflated, this is a marathon, not a sprint. It all takes time. The NICE guidelines of 4 to 7 pre-meal and under 8.5 post meal are OK for beginners. Your post meal reading was very good because it only rose by 1.2mmol/l, and that is excellent and shows the meal was a good one for you. :)

These were your first tests. You can't expect to be down to non-diabetic levels straight away. When I said the pre-meal reading should be under 6, that is a target for you to aim for, and if you continue to do well, you will reach that target. Once your body adjusts to the new diet you will see those pre-meal numbers come down. Have faith!
 
shelts said:
Totally deflated now :(

I was looking at the NICE guidelines quoted by Daisy earlier in the thread about pre and post test and was in the right range. Post meal was 8.2
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Shelts I am not sure its fair on you to even suggest you should get to those numbers just yet. I was in a hurry just like you a little over 3 months ago...once you have a good handle of impacts of foods...and then can become sufficiently disciplined to gain and keep control the numbers will look after themselves...people like @Bluetit1802 @Sable_Jan @Mike D @NoCrbs4Me and many more too mention all helped me to keep things in perspective at the start. My start position was 12.3 and in 12 weeks I got to 5.6. I expect my next 3 months to be even better as it wont include the first month when I was still eating things that increased my blood sugar...so stay on the case...you WILL get there
 
Thanks for all the advice. I went to get the numbers from the nurse from my first test, and she did another test. Here's what came from my first set of bloods:

Hba1c - 6.8% 51
Cholesterol - 5.9
Trigs - 2.6
Hdl - 1.1
Ldl - 3.6

Weight down by 5.5kgs since December.

What are the scales for Hdl and Ldl etc?
 
Well done on the weight loss. Your HbA1c isn't bad at all.

The standards for cholesterol are:

Total 3 to 5 (doctors prefer diabetics to be under 4, but there is controversy about this)
Trigs 0 to 1.9
HDL 1 to 3.5
LDL 0 to 4
Total/HDL ratio under 4. (divide total by HDL)

The Total means very little on its own, but your breakdown numbers are not as good as they could be, especially the Trigs as these are nasty little beggars, and your Total/HDL ratio could be better. The lower your trigs the more likely the LDL will have large fluffy particles that are in fact good things, and the lower the LDL and higher the HDL the better.
 
shelts said:
Totally deflated now :(

I was looking at the NICE guidelines quoted by Daisy earlier in the thread about pre and post test and was in the right range. Post meal was 8.2
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there is nothing wrong with 7 and 8.2 for a start..there are people here who would love those numbers :)
it might take a couple of months to get your BG down, with only a few lucky ones it happens in a week.

watch your carbs and the rest will follow..I cut out all grain, grain product and starchy veg and sugary stuff fruit/juice
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Well done on the weight loss. Your HbA1c isn't bad at all.

The standards for cholesterol are:

Total 3 to 5 (doctors prefer diabetics to be under 4, but there is controversy about this)
Trigs 0 to 1.9
HDL 1 to 3.5
LDL 0 to 4
Total/HDL ratio under 4. (divide total by HDL)

The Total means very little on its own, but your breakdown numbers are not as good as they could be, especially the Trigs as these are nasty little beggars, and your Total/HDL ratio could be better. The lower your trigs the more likely the LDL will have large fluffy particles that are in fact good things, and the lower the LDL and higher the HDL the better.
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Thank you for that. These were the first results, so I will be interested when I get the next ones at next appointment.
 
seems I answered the same post twice...dementia is kicking in by the look of it ..LOL

will be interesting to see how your trigs are with the last test, with low carb, they should have come down a bit.
 
daddys1 said:
Hi @shelts This chart may help you.
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You will see your 6.8 in the orange second row and second line, everyone uses the top line (of each row) now for diagnosis. That's a 2 to 3 month average of what your sugars have been.

The bottom line in each row is what we test after meals etc and Fasting the first reading on a morning. mmol/L

When you see your 6.8% = to 51 this is what you have averaged. If you now look on the bottom line in the row you would have been rising into the red and falling into the yellow to get that average figure of 6.8 or 51.

I hope this helps.

Neil
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What a useful chart for 'newbies' like me. Thanks.
 
noblehead said:
Hi and welcome to the forum Shelts :)

The terminology and abbreviations used in diabetes can be a bit baffling I do agree, see if the following is helpful, its not full comprehensive list by any means but still worthy of posting:


  • Amylin (Islet Amyloid Polypeptide) - Slows the rate at which digested carbohydrate appears as glucose in the blood and thus reduces total insulin demand
  • Basal - referred to as the slow acting insulin used to cover your bodies own glucose stores
  • Beta cells - Pancreatic cells responsible for the production of insulin, amylin and C-peptide
  • BG - blood glucose (this is the measurement of glucose circulating in the blood)
  • Biphasic insulin - An insulin mixture containing both fast acting and slow acting insulin, usually injected twice daily
  • Bolus - referred to as the fast acting insulin used to cover food, typically carbohydrates, some cover for protein as well.
  • BP - Blood Pressure
  • Brittle diabetes (labile diabetes) - Most often seen in type 1
  • BS - blood sugar (as above)
  • CHO - Carbohydrate (Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen)
  • C-peptide - A by-product of normal insulin production
  • CTS - Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
  • CVD - Cardiovascular Disease
  • Double diabetes - Comprises symptoms of both type 1 and type 2 diabetes
  • DSN - Diabetic Specialist Nurse
  • ED- Erectile Disorder
  • FS - Frozen Shoulder
  • Fulminant type 1 - An idiopathic subtype which has a very rapid onset and no honeymoon period
  • G.I - Glycemic index. A G.I value tells you how rapidly a particular carbohydrate is turned
  • G.L - Glycemic load. A G.L value takes into account not only G.I, but also the total quantity
  • GAD (Glutamic Acid Decarboxylase) - Antibodies test
  • GDM - Gestational Diabetes Mellitus
  • Glucagon - A hormone produced in the alpha cells of the pancreas
  • Glycogen - The storage form of glucose in animals and humans
  • Glycogenesis - Glucose storage, mainly in the liver and muscles
  • Glycogenolysis - The breaking down of glycogen stores in liver and muscle tissue
  • GNG (Gluconeogenesis) - The generation of glucose from non-carbohydrate carbon substrates
  • HBA1C - HbA1c is the scientific shorthand for Glycosylated Haemoglobin
  • HCP/HP - Health care professional
  • HDL - High Density Lipoprotein (the "good" cholesterol)
  • Honeymoon period - The period of time after a diagnosis of type 1 diabetes when there is better than expected blood glucose control
  • Hypo - hypoglycaemia (this means blood sugar level is too low)
  • Insulin - A hormone which causes most of the body's cells to take up glucose from the blood
  • Insulin analogues - Genetically altered versions of insulin
  • Insulin antibodies - An immune response to exogenous(injected) insulin
  • Insulin resistance - Normal amounts of insulin are inadequate to produce a normal insulin level.
  • Ketoacidosis - A severe accumulation of keto acids in the blood, resulting in acidosis
  • Ketones - Ketone bodies are acids left over as a byproduct of ketosis
  • Ketosis - A process in which your body converts fats into energy
  • Lantus - Long-acting insulin analogue used as a basal(background) insulin. Normally injected
  • LDL - Low Density Lipoprotein (the "bad" cholesterol)
  • Levemir - Long-acting insulin analogue used as a basal(background) insulin.
  • LHB (Local Health Board) Welsh equivalent of a PCT (Primary Care Trust)
  • Liver dump - The common term given to glucose production from the liver
  • Low-carb diet - A proportional reduction of dietary carbohydrate
  • MDI - Multiple Daily Injections - an insulin regimen adopted by the majority of type 1 diabetics
  • MODY - Maturity Onset Diabetes of the Young refers to a number of dominantly inherited, monogenic defects of insulin secretion. There are currently eight different varieties of MODY
  • Nephropathy - Damage to or disease of the kidneys
  • NICE - National Institute for Clinical Health and Excellence
  • NSF - National Strategic Framework
  • PCT - Primary Care Trust
  • Peripheral neuropathy - Damage to the nerves of the peripheral nervous system
  • PP - post prandial (this means a period of time after eating, usually recorded as 2 hours but often 1)
  • Pump - Insulin Pump, used as an alternative insulin delivery method to MDI. The pump is connected to you 24/7 and pumps tiny doses of insulin thorought the day, with the ability to give extra doses at meals times and with snacks.
  • Retinopathy - Non-inflammatory damage to the retina of the eye
  • SHA - Strategic Health Authority
  • Somogyi effect (rebound hyperglycemia) - A high blood sugar (hyperglycemia)
  • TG or Trigs Triglycerides - the main component part of VLDL and a significant cause of strokes and heart attacks
  • Type 1 (autoimmune) - The most common form of type 1 diabetes
  • Type 1 (idiopathic) - All forms of type 1 which occur without a known cause
  • Type 1 (surgical) - Diabetes caused by partial or complete removal of the pancreas
  • Type 1.5 - Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults (LADA), also known as slow onset type 1
  • Type 2 - Diabetes mellitus type 2 is most often attributed to insulin resistance and relative
  • VLDL - Very Low Density Lipoprotein (the "very bad" cholesterol)
  • Young-onset type 2 - Anyone diagnosed with type 2 under the age of 45 is considered young
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shelts said:
Thanks for all the advice. I went to get the numbers from the nurse from my first test, and she did another test. Here's what came from my first set of bloods:

Hba1c - 6.8% 51
Cholesterol - 5.9
Trigs - 2.6
Hdl - 1.1
Ldl - 3.6

Weight down by 5.5kgs since December.

What are the scales for Hdl and Ldl etc?
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My hbA1c was 52 on diagnoses & my 1st 3month was 44 & that was with messing around not knowing what I could & couldn't eat to control it. So you see you can go along way in a short time, just stick with it & in no time you will see & feel the difference. ☆
 
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