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Blood Sugar and Blood Pressure

Listlad

Listlad

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If we add sugar to water and dissolve it, the density of that water will increase. That being the case, the pressure involved in pumping that “syrup” through a tube system would increase. Also in addition to that, an increase in the “syrup” viscosity would also add a further increase. Is that how it works with high blood sugar?

If so the lowering of blood sugar would lower blood pressure. Is that the case?

Many thanks for any thoughts.
 
I have never had high blood pressure. However, I have seen many reports on this forum that BP improves enough to remove some medication on a low carb/keto diet.
 
Listlad said:
If we add sugar to water and dissolve it, the density of that water will increase. That being the case, the pressure involved in pumping that “syrup” through a tube system would increase. Also in addition to that, an increase in the “syrup” viscosity would also add a further increase. Is that how it works with high blood sugar?

If so the lowering of blood sugar would lower blood pressure. Is that the case?

Many thanks for any thoughts.
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I don't think that can be how it works. Normal BG is about 100mg/dL (5.5mmol/L) so 1 gram of glucose in a litre of blood or 5 grams (a teaspoonful) in all 5 Litres of your blood. Even if your BG is 200mg/dL (11mmol/L) or 2 teaspoons in total that is still hardly syrupy.
Latest thinking seems to be that the increased glucose is affecting the walls of the blood vessels which are hardening and constricting blood flow, causing the damage to nerves, eyes etc and presumably increasing blood pressure. Reducing BG would help to reduce blood pressure but not as directly as your viscosity idea would suggest.
 
Mr_Pot said:
I don't think that can be how it works. Normal BG is about 100mg/dL (5.5mmol/L) so 1 gram of glucose in a litre of blood or 5 grams (a teaspoonful) in all 5 Litres of your blood. Even if your BG is 200mg/dL (11mmol/L) or 2 teaspoons in total that is still hardly syrupy.
Latest thinking seems to be that the increased glucose is affecting the walls of the blood vessels which are hardening and constricting blood flow, causing the damage to nerves, eyes etc and presumably increasing blood pressure. Reducing BG would help to reduce blood pressure but not as directly as your viscosity idea would suggest.
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I see. Yes, I did read a similar explanation to the one you have given.

Is that reversible though?
 
Of course sugar may not sit in ones blood in the same way that it does in water.

(My human biology understanding is almost non existent).
 
Well I don’t know if it’s normalising my blood sugar or losing over six stone, both from low carbing, but my BP before diagnosis, on 2 meds’ was around 145/85. Now it’s around 125/75 on just one med :)
 
Rachox said:
Well I don’t know if it’s normalising my blood sugar or losing over six stone, both from low carbing, but my BP before diagnosis, on 2 meds’ was around 145/85. Now it’s around 125/75 on just one med :)
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That’s quite low!
 
There was a report on BP on Reporting Scotland last week and the Top Scientist fella freely admitted he didn't have any idea what really affected BP....
You can lose a lot of weight and still have high BP it seems.
Not an issue with me at the moment, I seem to be bumping along at the low end, which is not great for the dizzy spells... :banghead:
 
hankjam said:
There was a report on BP on Reporting Scotland last week and the Top Scientist fella freely admitted he didn't have any idea what really affected BP....
You can lose a lot of weight and still have high BP it seems.
Not an issue with me at the moment, I seem to be bumping along at the low end, which is not great for the dizzy spells... :banghead:
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I have to not stand up from sitting too quickly these days too! :wacky::eek::confused:
 
hankjam said:
There was a report on BP on Reporting Scotland last week and the Top Scientist fella freely admitted he didn't have any idea what really affected BP....
You can lose a lot of weight and still have high BP it seems.
Not an issue with me at the moment, I seem to be bumping along at the low end, which is not great for the dizzy spells... :banghead:
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Hasn’t Scotland traditionally had a history of high blood pressure? Deep fried mars bars and all that?
 
Listlad said:
Hasn’t Scotland traditionally had a history of high blood pressure? Deep fried mars bars and all that?
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Indeed... but even when I was a sugarbabe I never tried the aforementioned tasty treat....:(
 
Listlad said:
If we add sugar to water and dissolve it, the density of that water will increase. That being the case, the pressure involved in pumping that “syrup” through a tube system would increase. Also in addition to that, an increase in the “syrup” viscosity would also add a further increase. Is that how it works with high blood sugar?

If so the lowering of blood sugar would lower blood pressure. Is that the case?

Many thanks for any thoughts.
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Metabolic syndrome tends to be elevated blood sugars, rraised blood pressure and elevated lipid levels. Many people, including myself, find all three improve, if not always sort themselves out by managing our blood sugars. That was certainly the case for me.

Metabolic syndrome is worth a consultation with Dr Google.
 
DCUKMod said:
Metabolic syndrome tends to be elevated blood sugars, rraised blood pressure and elevated lipid levels. Many people, including myself, find all three improve, if not always sort themselves out by managing our blood sugars. That was certainly the case for me.

Metabolic syndrome is worth a consultation with Dr Google.
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Just googled it. Sounds good.
 
My bg is below prediabetic these days but my bp is still high side of normal, with a low dose of bp pills. Overweight though, and my father was on bp pills as well, with normal weight. Many non diabetics have high bp, overweight or not.
 
Talking of hardening of the arteries. I had a test done in 2016 to see if my arteries had hardened up. The outcome was that they hadn’t. I suppose since then that could have happened.
 
Mr_Pot said:
I don't think that can be how it works. Normal BG is about 100mg/dL (5.5mmol/L) so 1 gram of glucose in a litre of blood or 5 grams (a teaspoonful) in all 5 Litres of your blood. Even if your BG is 200mg/dL (11mmol/L) or 2 teaspoons in total that is still hardly syrupy.
Latest thinking seems to be that the increased glucose is affecting the walls of the blood vessels which are hardening and constricting blood flow, causing the damage to nerves, eyes etc and presumably increasing blood pressure. Reducing BG would help to reduce blood pressure but not as directly as your viscosity idea would suggest.
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@Mr_Pot 200milligrams per deciliter is the same as 0.002 grams per cubic centimeter? Have I got that right?
 
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