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Blood Sugar and High Cholesterol

wrightiow

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Freshwater, Isle of Wight
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Hi all, I have had recent blood tests that show I have high Cholesterol. My blood sugars where OK but I am suffering from excessive hunger and thirst and am strugerling to stay awake. I have been checking my blood sugars when at work they have not gone lower than 7.4mmol/l

When I think about it we changed our launch powder recently due to me itching all the time but has not made any difference could this be related to the top.
 
Hi @wrightiow and welcome to the forum.

You say you have been checking your blood sugars. Are these at random times or before and two hours after food?

As for the laundry powder, if you have changed it and are still itching, this could be because of your blood sugars being high.
The tiredness and hunger are classic symptoms of diabetes but this is something we cannot diagnose here and you need to speak to your G.P.

I will tag @daisy1 to give you some basic information that may help you.
 
@wrightiow

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information mentioned by Catherine and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask any questions you need to and someone will answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi all, I have had recent blood tests that show I have high Cholesterol. My blood sugars where OK but I am suffering from excessive hunger and thirst and am strugerling to stay awake. I have been checking my blood sugars when at work they have not gone lower than 7.4mmol/l

When I think about it we changed our launch powder recently due to me itching all the time but has not made any difference could this be related to the top.

Hi @wrightiow just want to go back a step! Your profile doesn't say you are diabetic so are you asking whether you could be, or are you diagnosed (what type) and asking for advise? If you are not diagnosed - You say you are checking your blood sugars but when are you checking them, and this might sound abit odd but who taught you the technique? Final question, what do you call high cholesterol? Sorry for the third degree but your answers will make a huge difference to the advice we can give you! Sue xx
 
Hi All

I have been doing my blood sugars morning and night and one hour before meals and two hours after. I am an Nurse so do blood sugars. My cholesterol is 9.
Thanks @wrightiow but are you a diagnosed diabetic? I'm presuming your blood tests included a hba1c as you said they were OK, do you know what the results were? (Sorry again for all the questions!)
 
Hi All

I have been doing my blood sugars morning and night and one hour before meals and two hours after. I am an Nurse so do blood sugars. My cholesterol is 9.

Hi, you need to be testing immediately before meals then two hours after, so that you have an actual pre meal reference point so you can see how much your glucose level has risen.

If you start a new thread of your own you're going to get morespecific advice appropriate to you rather than have it mixed up with what someone else is needing help over.

Robbity
 
Hi, you need to be testing immediately before meals then two hours after, so that you have an actual pre meal reference point so you can see how much your glucose level has risen.

If you start a new thread of your own you're going to get morespecific advice appropriate to you rather than have it mixed up with what someone else is needing help over.

Robbity

Errr @Robbity this is the OPs thread! But @wrightiow Robbitys right about the testing!!
 
@wrightiow. firstly Im a diabetic not a doctor so these are just my thoughts. Whilst the symptoms you have could be diabetes, they also could be alot of other things for example an infection, a urine infection, cystitis, thrush, an allergy (separate to the washing powder), your diet, a vitamin deficiency etc etc, the list could be endless! You know what Im going to say! You really need to see your GP and discuss the symptoms with him.
As for your cholesterol, whilst on first sight it appears high, Im presuming that this is an overall cholesterol level result, you really need to look at how the specific levels were. Again my advice is that at an overall of 9, you do need to see your GP. He will of course discuss Statins with you, but taking into account that you have other symptoms I suspect he will want to repeat the test first. As far as Statins go, there are many people here who wont take them (including me) BUT it has to be down to the individual making an informed choice based upon their current circumstances, their own medical history and their family history. I suggest you have a trawl through the forum where you will find loads of information which will help you make the decision which is best for you.
Two other things - I have no idea about your diet but I do think you should review it asap. You may be able to help get those cholesterol levels down by amending your diet, and of course IF you have the onset of diabetes it will help your blood sugars. (But that does not mean you can avoid a visit to the docs! ;))
Finally (and I realise Im now begining to sound like your mother:D, just a thought - you are a nurse and you say you are testing your bloods at work. As a nurse you will be washing your hands with an alcohol based liquid/gel dozens of times a day - this could affect any finger prick blood sugar test you are doing and give you a false reading!! Before testing you need to wash your hands with water and a alcohol/glycerine free soap (not common nowadays in the NHS!!:))
Hope some of that rather long winded post helps, Sue xxx
 
Errr @Robbity this is the OPs thread! But @wrightiow Robbitys right about the testing!!
OOPS I'm as daft as I'm stupid looking today then...:D:wideyed: I must have got confused as I know I'd just been looking at a thread where someone else was asking a slightly different question! This woman obviously can't multitask! Apologies @wrightiow

Robbity
 
OOPS I'm as daft as I'm stupid looking today then...:D:wideyed: I must have got confused as I know I'd just been looking at a thread where someone else was asking a slightly different question! This woman obviously can't multitask! Apologies @wrightiow

Robbity

Just glad its not just me! (Ive just gone to get my dinner out of the oven, but had forgotten to put it in there in the first place!:rolleyes:). But now your here, perhaps you can give the OP some general diet advice cos Im definitely not the right person to do that!!:D:D Thanks, Sue xxxxxxx
 
I would have a look at intermittent fasting. It is meant to be good at lowering cholesterol as it forces the body to actually start using it as fuel and it also (as you use up your glucogen) lowers your base glucose levels. I like to do an easy version of do not eat after 5PM and before the next midday. I try and do this one day a week minimum; normally sunday evening and monday morning. You can go more extreme with the 5:2 diet. However, more than 36 hours and your body starts to go into utilising internal protein but it does force your cells into repair mode and not replace mode
 
Hi. As others have said test just before a meal and 2 hours after. NICE says to stay below 8.5 mmol 2 hours after a meal and if more quite often then you may be diabetic; the Hba1C if you can get it done is very good. Do look at Daisy's advice about diet as you may or may not be aware that NHS diet guidance has been generally very bad. Also find out what your cholesterol LDL/HDL ratio and Trigs are as the total can be a bit meaningless
 
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