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<blockquote data-quote="JoKalsbeek" data-source="post: 1903211" data-attributes="member: 401801"><p>As a diabetic you can't properly process carbs anymore. Rice crispies, rice milk, and toast will spike you something awful because they're all carb heavy, but you already noticed that. The eggs were a good choice though; no carbs there. You don't have to wait till next Friday to get more information, you can shoot off questions here all you like... We're not doctors, but we do rather know what we're on about. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> Where are you getting the ketone readings from? Any idea how high they are?</p><p></p><p>As I said, you can't process carbs anymore... Either because of high insulin resistance, deminished insulin production, or a combination of those two. All carbs turn to glucose (sugar) once ingested, and if your insulin is impaired, it can't leave the bloodstream efficientlyagain. So that isn't just the obvious like sugar that's doing you harm, but also potatoes, cereal,(oats, muesli, crispies, special K, flakes etc), pasta, bread, corn and rice. Fruits too, save for moderate amounts of berries, say 50 grams tops. All those things are decidedly bad for you, as your meter will tell you as you test. (I'm assuming you're testing before a meal and 2 hours after first bite? If not: You want to aim for a rise of less than 2 mmol/l. Anything above that is considered a spike, and you want to avoid those.).</p><p></p><p>So what can you eat? Eggs, meat, fish, leafy greens/above ground veggies, cheese, full fat greek yoghurt, double cream, nuts, extra dark chocolate, olives, for instance. Breakfast could be 3 eggs with bacon and cheese, maybe mushrooms and a few cherry tomatoes... Lunch a salad with tuna, capers, olives, avocado, mayonaise. Dinner meat or fish with above ground veggies. None of those will spike you.</p><p></p><p>Metformin is a drug that, when tolerated well (some people get the runs something awful... I was one of them, so I wanted to get rid of the meds asap), can make a difference, but only a LITTLE difference. It stops the liver dumping glucose and it is an appetite suppresant, but it doesn't do much about the carbs you're eating. The big difference will have to come from a lifestyle change, meaning, basically, cutting carbs. You can, of course, be completely medication dependant, (and there's a whole lot more out there than just metformin.). Some people choose that, and that's fine. Only drawback is that if you don't change your diet, then diabetes is per definition a progressive disease. Dosages will get higher, complications are more likely to occur. If you change diet as well, you might go into remission. I managed it just fine, I've been off diabetes meds (and statins) three months into diagnosis, and that was because I was on my own at first and kept making mistakes in what I ate. Could've happened a lot sooner if I'd found this place when i needed it, but alas.</p><p></p><p>In any case, don't just take my word for it. Maybe check dietdoctor.com for recipies and informative video's. They can explain it better than i can. And maybe hit the books: Dr. Jason Fung has written a couple of brilliant ones.</p><p></p><p>Good luck!</p><p>Jo, who's still a little concerned about the ketones</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoKalsbeek, post: 1903211, member: 401801"] As a diabetic you can't properly process carbs anymore. Rice crispies, rice milk, and toast will spike you something awful because they're all carb heavy, but you already noticed that. The eggs were a good choice though; no carbs there. You don't have to wait till next Friday to get more information, you can shoot off questions here all you like... We're not doctors, but we do rather know what we're on about. ;) Where are you getting the ketone readings from? Any idea how high they are? As I said, you can't process carbs anymore... Either because of high insulin resistance, deminished insulin production, or a combination of those two. All carbs turn to glucose (sugar) once ingested, and if your insulin is impaired, it can't leave the bloodstream efficientlyagain. So that isn't just the obvious like sugar that's doing you harm, but also potatoes, cereal,(oats, muesli, crispies, special K, flakes etc), pasta, bread, corn and rice. Fruits too, save for moderate amounts of berries, say 50 grams tops. All those things are decidedly bad for you, as your meter will tell you as you test. (I'm assuming you're testing before a meal and 2 hours after first bite? If not: You want to aim for a rise of less than 2 mmol/l. Anything above that is considered a spike, and you want to avoid those.). So what can you eat? Eggs, meat, fish, leafy greens/above ground veggies, cheese, full fat greek yoghurt, double cream, nuts, extra dark chocolate, olives, for instance. Breakfast could be 3 eggs with bacon and cheese, maybe mushrooms and a few cherry tomatoes... Lunch a salad with tuna, capers, olives, avocado, mayonaise. Dinner meat or fish with above ground veggies. None of those will spike you. Metformin is a drug that, when tolerated well (some people get the runs something awful... I was one of them, so I wanted to get rid of the meds asap), can make a difference, but only a LITTLE difference. It stops the liver dumping glucose and it is an appetite suppresant, but it doesn't do much about the carbs you're eating. The big difference will have to come from a lifestyle change, meaning, basically, cutting carbs. You can, of course, be completely medication dependant, (and there's a whole lot more out there than just metformin.). Some people choose that, and that's fine. Only drawback is that if you don't change your diet, then diabetes is per definition a progressive disease. Dosages will get higher, complications are more likely to occur. If you change diet as well, you might go into remission. I managed it just fine, I've been off diabetes meds (and statins) three months into diagnosis, and that was because I was on my own at first and kept making mistakes in what I ate. Could've happened a lot sooner if I'd found this place when i needed it, but alas. In any case, don't just take my word for it. Maybe check dietdoctor.com for recipies and informative video's. They can explain it better than i can. And maybe hit the books: Dr. Jason Fung has written a couple of brilliant ones. Good luck! Jo, who's still a little concerned about the ketones [/QUOTE]
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