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nsh2111

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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
Hello, are there any studies or real life examples on body fat% and type 2 control?

I have nearly lost 10kg since i was diagnosed over 2 years back and have just started checking body fat% on one of those coin machines in gyms.

It showed me that i am at 24% and said that with my age/height, healthy range is 16% to 25%

What are others experience ? I am sure lchf will reduce body fat but anyone know at what rate it happens and how long it will take to be below 20.
 
BMI (Body Mass Index) of 18,5-24,9 is Normal weight and <18,5 is Underweight.

You are 24 which is nice but, there is no reason not to lower it to the low end of the normal range.

Also your waist it important. It is suggested that for males less than 94 cm and for the ladies 80 cm.

All the figures are for adults only. These are generally accepted figures. "Each person is different".

Diet & Exercise & Controlled BG Levels are the key for weight loss.

Endo's like the diabetics to be within the lower range of the BMI levels and Waist measurements and suggest that 0.5-2 kg weight loss for each month is ideal and more importantly they say - do not gain back of what you have lost!

This is my experience. I hope it helps.
 
When I was going to the 'education' sessions the last one was just about 3 months from diagnosis and we were asked to have the Hba1c test done in time to get the results for the last meeting. I had gone down to 47- but lost hardly any weight- Total bewilderment on the part of the team - as I did not at that time know of the association of weight to diabetes I was a bit bewildered by the reaction. Perhaps if I lose more fat I will be able to eat more carbs in a day and stay normal, but I'm really just going day to day now, and glad to have the opportunity to wake up and feel well.
 
@Resurgam Less body weight means your body has lesser efford for the production of insulin thus your system is more comfortable and production is longer in the coming years, for those who take it from the outside, it means lesser quantities of insulin.
 
I would look at Roy Taylor's work based on the initial hypothesis that loss of body fat (specifically that around the liver and pancreas or visceral fat) reduces insulin resistance and hence reverses t2 diabetes. Although 40% of normal weight people get insulin resistance that is because they have a low tolerance of visceral fat as do those of South East Asian origin. This indicates it may be your waist size that is a better indicator of metabolic health rather than your overall body fat.
 
luv2spin said:
@Resurgam Less body weight means your body has lesser efford for the production of insulin thus your system is more comfortable and production is longer in the coming years, for those who take it from the outside, it means lesser quantities of insulin.
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I think it is more of a case of insulin resistance (for those with Type 2 Diabetes), there are more people who are overweight but metabolically fit than there are those who are overweight and metabolically deranged.
 
@Guzzler Yes, what you are saying is true and perfectly correct. Weight is not a reason for diabetes. 99.9 % , it is genetic. It is in the family tree going back many many years ago that we have no way of knowing. But, that does mean that we are bound to be diabetic because we might be having in our chromosomes. If the genes are okay, there is no way of someone becoming diabetic. Weight and so many things are just a risk factor and may induce the situation which otherwise would never happen. That is before someone becomes diabetes.

But, once you are diabetic, weight and so many factors are important for the management of it.

With insulin resistance, if treatment is not carried away, this is where weight might be crucial too, the pancreas and thus the beta cells might be working more than it should be doing and might, I am just saying that it might speed the process of becoming diabetic.
 
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Guzzler said:
overweight but metabolically fit than there are those who are overweight and metabolically deranged
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Not so sure about that... its more a matter of timing perhaps.. how many are undiagnosed because the obvious thing to measure, fasting insulin, seems to be ignored by the NHS.
 
luv2spin said:
@Guzzler Yes, what you are saying is true and perfectly correct. Weight is not a reason for diabetes. 99.9 % , it is genetic. It is in the family tree going back many many years ago that we have no way of knowing. But, that does mean that we are bound to be diabetic because we might be having in our chromosomes. If the genes are okay, there is no way of someone becoming diabetic. Weight and so many things are just a risk factor and may induce the situation which otherwise would never happen. That is before someone becomes diabetes.

But, once you are diabetic, weight and somemany factors are important for the management of it.

With insulin resistance, if treatment is not carried away, this is where weight might be crucial too, the pancreas and thus the beta cells might be working more than it should be doing and might, I am just saying that it might speed the process of becoming diabetic.
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I disagree that it is "99% genetic". The possibility of a genetic pre-disposition has been mooted many times but there is not one shred of proof either way. In my personal opinion there is perhaps a cohort of genes requiring triggers that may be one of the causes but that butters no bread, so to speak.

I agree that if a pw T2 has the symptom of weight gain then weight loss aids better management but this goes no way to solving the problems of TOFIs.
 
Wow, good response from your everyone. I do not fit typical type 2 profile. My waist is 31 inch and BMI 21 . It must be genetic but none of my parents have it.

Don't know . Only thing high is body fat which is on higher range So i am going to reduce it and see if if it hlpss.
 
bulkbiker said:
Not so sure about that... its more a matter of timing perhaps.. how many are undiagnosed because the obvious thing to measure, fasting insulin, seems to be ignored by the NHS.
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Aye, this is true. What was it that Kraft said? Something along the lines of '.... you just havn't been diagnosed yet'. I can't remember who said that more people are obese than are T2 but he was talking about the rise of TOFIs (context).
 
@Guzzler "TOFI", Thank so much, through you I have learned something new today. I mean the abbreviation of it. Excellent :) Thank you again.. thin-outside-fat-inside is a serious business I believe and has to be treated as it may cause so many matters.
 
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