Broccoli & Cauliflower?

[fumanchu]

I found on myfitnesspal that one cup - whatever that is - of brocc & cauli is showing as 10 carbs.. is this right?

 

[himtoo]

broccoli is 1.1 carbs per 100 grams
cauliflower is 3.1 carbs per 100 grams.

note - approx. 28.35 grams per ounce

not sure what a "cup" is

if you have scales at home you could weigh out a portion to be sure of the carb value contained.

all the best !!

 

[Kristin251]

I found on myfitnesspal that one cup - whatever that is - of brocc & cauli is showing as 10 carbs.. is this right?

Are you in the US? I find 100g DOES act like 10 carbs sad as it is. The more cooked the more bs I get. Raw would probably be best but I steam mine until soft.

 

[Mr_Pot]

An American cup is about 237ml, so a mug size. I doubt that contains enough for 10gm carbs from cauliflower or broccoli even if the MFP carbs include fibre. @Kristin251 seems to be sensitive to minute amounts of everything (except Avocado ) Personally I can eat vast amounts of cauliflower and broccoli without it affecting my blood sugar, and I do.

 

[Kristin251]

An American cup is about 237ml, so a mug size. I doubt that contains enough for 10gm carbs from cauliflower or broccoli even if the MFP carbs include fibre. @Kristin251 seems to be sensitive to minute amounts of everything (except Avocado ) Personally I can eat vast amounts of cauliflower and broccoli without it affecting my blood sugar, and I do.

Yes I am sensitive to far too many things and I don't enjoy it in the least. Happy you have some pancreatic function working in your favor Mr Pots. I'm thinking the stage of a persons pancreatic function would determine the effect of that amount of carbs, or any amount actually. I have no function unfortunately so that of course would make me carb sensitive I would think. That's why we are all different and need to eat to our meters.

I just weighed one cup of water and it was 5.5 ounces. One cup Brussels sprouts same thing.

 

[Hotpepper20000]

An American cup is about 237ml, so a mug size. I doubt that contains enough for 10gm carbs from cauliflower or broccoli even if the MFP carbs include fibre. @Kristin251 seems to be sensitive to minute amounts of everything (except Avocado ) Personally I can eat vast amounts of cauliflower and broccoli without it affecting my blood sugar, and I do.

I agree, not all carbs are created equal. Any carbs from above ground veggies don't affect my BG. But even just one slice of bread spikes me.
The only way to know for sure is to test.

 

[Kristin251]

According to calorie king
1 cup (5.5oz) of broccoli is 11.2 carbs and 5.1 fiber
Brussels sprouts 11.1 c and 4.1 fiber
Cauliflowet 6.4 c and 4.2 fiber.

 

[himtoo]

when I was diagnosed type 1 44 years ago the dietary advice was that green veggies were considered "free"
( in other words they did not need counting as part of carbohydrate intake.)

fast forward to 2016 and in Dafne courses being taught currently -- green veggies are still being allowed as "free".
( the only exception to this would be for people on a pump who normally count every single carb consumed )

examples of green veggie food portions ( 80 grams being considered a portion for your 5 a day )

broccoli = 0.9 carb
cauliflower = 2.8 carb
cabbage = 1.5 carb
chard = 3 carb
Brussel sprouts = 2.7 carb

so eating this total example which would fill a dinner plate is equivalent to 10.9 carbs in total and healthy in nutrients as well as being very low carb.


( carb values taken from carbs and cals book )

 

[himtoo]

According to calorie king
1 cup (5.5oz) of broccoli is 11.2 carbs and 5.1 fiber
Brussels sprouts 11.1 c and 4.1 fiber
Cauliflowet 6.4 c and 4.2 fiber.

you are not subtracting the dietary fibre to give an accurate picture as to carb that will turn to glucose.
with the fibre subtracted those carb values you posted put them in a very low carb category.

 

[Mr_Pot]

Yes I am sensitive to far too many things and I don't enjoy it in the least. Happy you have some pancreatic function working in your favor Mr Pots. I'm thinking the stage of a persons pancreatic function would determine the effect of that amount of carbs, or any amount actually. I have no function unfortunately so that of course would make me carb sensitive I would think. That's why we are all different and need to eat to our meters.

I just weighed one cup of water and it was 5.5 ounces. One cup Brussels sprouts same thing.

I am very lucky compared to you, in that I am type 2 and manage to keep my HbA1c below pre-diabetic level on about 80gms of carbs a day and no medication. (Of course if I was really lucky I wouldn't be diabetic at all).
Unlike measurement by weight, measurement by volume, such as cups, varies with what you are measuring for example a cup of Kosher (sea) salt weighs about a third of the weight of a cup of table salt because of the air spaces. So unless you are going to pulverize it I would expect a cup of cauliflower to be about 3 medium florets which the Carbs and Cals Book shows as 2-3gms carbs.

 

[fumanchu]

Thanks everybody. I thought they were free, zero carbs. I'm a wee bit miffed to learn they aren't! So I would be better off eating salad instead then?

 

[himtoo]

Thanks everybody. I thought they were free, zero carbs. I'm a wee bit miffed to learn they aren't! So I would be better off eating salad instead then?

ABSOLUTELY not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am making the assumption here that you are asking as a type 2 diabetic ( or family member of 1 )

these listed things are some of the best things the world has to offer in terms of low carb eating

I am truly sorry your original thread has not given you a concise answer that helps you
( opinion of all members has to be considered).

I can heartily recommend any and all green veg to assist in keeping blood sugars as low as possible.

edited to add -- salad items contain similar amounts of carbs

lettuce = 1.1 carbs per 100 gram
cucumber = 0.8 carbs per 100 gram
tomato = 3.1 carb per 100 gram
avocado = 1.0 carb per 100 gram
spring onion = 1.8carb per 100 gram

 

[Jamesuk9]

ABSOLUTELY not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am making the assumption here that you are asking as a type 2 diabetic ( or family member of 1 )

these listed things are some of the best things the world has to offer in terms of low carb eating

I am truly sorry your original thread has not given you a concise answer that helps you
( opinion of all members has to be considered).

I can heartily recommend any and all green veg to assist in keeping blood sugars as low as possible.

I second this, cauli and Broccoli can and should be a staple part of every type 2s daily diet.... Never a day passes where I don't consume and often more than I should...

Low carb, low gi, loaded with nutrients and delicous drowned in butter.

 

[Hotpepper20000]

Thanks everybody. I thought they were free, zero carbs. I'm a wee bit miffed to learn they aren't! So I would be better off eating salad instead then?

It all depends of your BG rises. Have you tested before and 2 hours after you eat? You may find that it doesn't affect you, for most it doesn't. Also quantity and what you eat it with make a difference as well.

 

[Kristin251]

you are not subtracting the dietary fibre to give an accurate picture as to carb that will turn to glucose.
with the fibre subtracted those carb values you posted put them in a very low carb category.

I listed the fiber to be subtracted. I just didn't donthe subtraction as I thought it was easy enough to do yourself.

The point I was making is even subtracting the fiber I have a different picture. I also never implied not to eat them. Some of us do need insulin for them. Without my pancreas making any insulin I would need to bolus for it. That's all I was saying

Furthermore, perhaps of little value to some, I was taught to subtract half the fiber.

I'm at the point I just know how much of what to eat and bolus. I often make a medley of lower carb like asparagus mushrooms bok choy and include some higher ones that tend to give me a bigger rise in a smaller quantity like broccoli cauliflowet brussel sprouts and green beans. Then I have a good balance and a good variety.

Someone says mushrooms spike them. Not me. They make a good snack. Caulk and broccoli spike me far more than they should. Asparagus doesn't raise me either. We are all different and that's why we all have ( or should) meters.

 

[Kristin251]

I am very lucky compared to you, in that I am type 2 and manage to keep my HbA1c below pre-diabetic level on about 80gms of carbs a day and no medication. (Of course if I was really lucky I wouldn't be diabetic at all

I was like you too! Until I wasn't......lol. At least I had 50 years without needing to inject. Some aren't as lucky as me.

 

[Avocado Sevenfold]

Thanks everybody. I thought they were free, zero carbs. I'm a wee bit miffed to learn they aren't! So I would be better off eating salad instead then?

Please keep in mind that eating is also about putting nutrition in to your body and not just about keeping carbs out. Broccoli and cauliflower are great sources of vitamins, minerals and fibre (see below). I suggest you test them before disregarding them.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/super-veggies-cruciferous-vegetables#2

 

[himtoo]

I listed the fiber to be subtracted. I just didn't donthe subtraction as I thought it was easy enough to do yourself.

That is making the assumption that the OP understands subtraction of dietary fibre.
this site is based in the UK and the OP is from Scotland.

it is widely agreed that green veg is some of the best food, carb wise, for Diabetics ( of any type ).

 

[Hotpepper20000]

I personaly believe that we can all get too caught up about the exact numbers of carbs in fresh heathy food like broccoli and cauliflower.
First step should always be to get rid of the usual processed foods, breads, cereals, potatoes, rice and other grains.
For most people when first diagnosed that willl be enough to bring BG down.

 

[Chook]

A cup measurement is 8 fluid ounces or 250ml. You can get sets of American cup measures very cheaply - I saw them in Poundland last weekend. They are very handy to have in your kitchen because a lot of the recipes on the internet use them rather than weighing ingredients - but also for times like this when a portion of something is given as 'a cup'.