Why is it that when the original poster has said that they have made an adult decision to try a time limited experiment in order to asess a particular issue of interest and importance to them, a number of replies are from people saying why they wouldnt do it and in not very subtle ways implying that the poster has made a foolish or ill informed decision - I dont see wiseowl as either of those things.
Seems to be that when it comes to this forum, the more it changes the more it stays the same
Kerry gold Irish butter is the best butter ever. However I would need to travel out of state for it now which I just might do.Just wondered which brand of butter is from grass fed cows as I have looked for that on packs of butter but have never found it
Oh I so kiss my Kerry gold!!! It's been banned in my ' dairy' state. There's actually a law suit going on. There is no better butter!!
Oh I so kiss my Kerry gold!!! It's been banned in my ' dairy' state. There's actually a law suit going on. There is no better butter!!
Might have to go to the next state over and stock up. We have a large upright freezer haha
What are the ingredients in the proactive spread? I'm not sure I like the sound of that haha.
I use butter rather sparingly and use avocado / olive oil and mayo as my primary fats. I do this more because animal fats are not friendly to my bg rather than for cholesterol reasons but since adding loads of avocado and minimizing animal fats my cholesterol was stellar. It was never horrible to begin with but it's perfect now. I worry more about the ratios of my cholesterol than individual components and they're all 'ideal'.
If you like avocado the diet doctor has a recipe for a green been avo thing. I've never tried it but heard it's great. I do chop some on warm veggies and mix it up. I add it to all meals and it also keeps bg low and slow. It can be chopped, sliced, wedged, mashed with just a little sea salt and put on anything or next to anything. The fat make up is perfect. Probably one of the healthies natural fats you can eat!!
Thanks will look for it
your post wasnt one of the ones I was referring to - yours was witty and spoke only of your own position.I in no way implied the OP was foolish.
The question in the title of the post was "butter or no butter". With what I thought was a witty response, I implied that for me, i am not giving up butter.
We are a DAIRY state and its Imported or something stupid like that. We have been saving one pound in our freezer as we will both cry when it's all gone. Lol. Time to take a road tripWhy has it been banned for goodness sake?
avo can be a rather heavy food with its good fats and fiber. I only eat about 1/3 at a time but I don't eat large meals so it keeps me full and bg happy for hours. Sorry you can't have it. Or stick up on prawns and chicken !! Goes lovely with those chopped up in a saladMy only disappointment since changing my diet is that I can only stomach avocado when eaten with certain foods like prawns or chicken. Often it simply makes me feel sick.
Oh just remembered another disappointment Lidl protein rolls. They are just vile even toasted with lashings of butter on them.
Sorry WiseOwl going off topic. I am a very fussy eater and I've never liked the taste of spreads or marg so I've never tried Flora pro active. Look forwards to reading your results.
your post wasnt one of the ones I was referring to - yours was witty and spoke only of your own position.
The ones I was particularly referring to were those citing the badness of the ingredients of the spread the OP has chosen to use in their experiment - referring to the other persons choice being "toxic sludge" is the most extreme example among a number
No but thats not the point.Would you eat that stuff @badcat ? after reading the ingredients list?
I was just advising the OP that it doesn't sound very nice and probably won't do them any good.
If they choose to eat it then fine... we are all adults after all.
Yes, but the rest of the readership perhaps don't know what the butter substitute actually is, so the posts by people who gave further details are a public service. This is the point of a forum. If someone simply wants to make a public announcement, I believe The Times has columns for that sort of thing.To assume they have not looked into what they are choosing to use and need someone else to tell them that they are choosing to eat "toxic sludge" is something I would see as disrespectful and therefore v inappropriate
Great triG and HbA1c which are the ones that count - well done & don't ditch the butter for processed fat!Good morning @caroline_92 my friend here are my latest results and thank you all my friends for all your reply's,very much appreciated
View attachment 24209
Exactly. Because due Unilever's newspeak margarine with some esterifies fitosterol is marketed as healthy and usable to lower cholesterol. They market as healthy and dietetic the Solero too. The interesting thing is in fact that in the pro activ site there isn't an ingredient list. Anyway high-quality fat and margarine I think are mutually exclusive.Yes, but the rest of the readership perhaps don't know what the butter substitute actually is, so the posts by people who gave further details are a public service. This is the point of a forum. If someone simply wants to make a public announcement, I believe The Times has columns for that sort of thing.
Sally
Even before reading the article the two ingredients that jumped out at me were sunflower oil and plant sterols. There is a school of thought that suggests plant sterols could be quite harmful. I say again, I'm sticking to butter, it's mine, all mine!This is what the Tesco's website lists as the ingredients for Flor Pro-Active Buttery (there are different versions, but I suspect the difference is mainly in the flavourings)
Ingredients
Vegetable Oils in varying proportions (56%) (Sunflower, Rapeseed, Palm, Linseed), Water, Plant Sterol Esters (9%), Buttermilk (6%), Salt (1%), Emulsifiers (Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids, Sunflower Lecithin), Acid (Citric Acid), Flavourings (contains Milk), Preservative (Potassium Sorbate), Vitamin A and D, Colour (Carotenes)
And this is what Zoe Harcombe says on the subject:
http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2013/01/...on-flora-pro-activ-an-unhealthy-relationship/
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?