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<blockquote data-quote="Hoping4Cure" data-source="post: 1465642" data-attributes="member: 393050"><p>To date, no one has achieved 100% restored beta cell functionality, at least not without corroborating evidence. We're all awaiting the results of Dan Darkes, for instance, to see whether his 100% restoration is a hoax.</p><p></p><p>But 100% perfect restoration is not necessary for clinical significance. Even minor increases in c-peptide have drastic effects on health, increased alpha beta cell signalling resulting in reduced hypos, etc, nor what he wrote.</p><p></p><p>He said it's "virtually impossible" for the "pancreas to regain functionality", which, when one knows how to properly read and parse sentences in the English language, is simply untrue.</p><p></p><p>"regain functionality" != "regain full functionality"</p><p></p><p>Without the qualifier "full", his statements are false, period.</p><p></p><p>I have no sympathy for people making stuff up, passing it off as gospel truth (confident statements made without evidence, or ignoring contrary evidence, or appealing to ignorance or making faulty generalizations), then whining about the record being set straight and mis-attributing what they themselves wrote in order to make themselves look better. Even a single case of a type 1 diabetic's c-peptide levels rising at any point, and for any duration, and for any magnitude is sufficient to discredit this.</p><p></p><p>Don't make stuff up.</p><p></p><p>Quoting his responses <em>verbatim</em>:</p><p></p><p>"To then ask whether "insulin could be produced again" would imply that the pancreas can REGAIN functionality, which we both know is virtually impossible."</p><p></p><p><u>INCORRECT.</u></p><p></p><p>I have achieved this, two years ago. I have regained partial functionality, briefly, which qualifies as "regaining functionality". 100% restoration is not necessary. Permanent restoration either. </p><p></p><p>Because...Logic. </p><p></p><p>If one can restore even partial insulin production, even for only a brief period of time, that is sufficient to invalidate his claim of "impossibility". Do I need to break out a dictionary here? Seriously. Clearly, something that has happened, in several cases is therefore NOT impossible.</p><p></p><p>"I just wanted to know that could insulin be produced again"</p><p></p><p>To which he answered:</p><p></p><p>"No."</p><p></p><p><u>INCORRECT.</u></p><p></p><p>Don't make broad, sweeping, inaccurate statements and then complain when people call you out on it. We're all adults here. If I say something incorrect and there's contrary evidence out there (there are LITERALLY dozens of scientific studies showing c-peptide levels rising, in humans, for various reasons).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hoping4Cure, post: 1465642, member: 393050"] To date, no one has achieved 100% restored beta cell functionality, at least not without corroborating evidence. We're all awaiting the results of Dan Darkes, for instance, to see whether his 100% restoration is a hoax. But 100% perfect restoration is not necessary for clinical significance. Even minor increases in c-peptide have drastic effects on health, increased alpha beta cell signalling resulting in reduced hypos, etc, nor what he wrote. He said it's "virtually impossible" for the "pancreas to regain functionality", which, when one knows how to properly read and parse sentences in the English language, is simply untrue. "regain functionality" != "regain full functionality" Without the qualifier "full", his statements are false, period. I have no sympathy for people making stuff up, passing it off as gospel truth (confident statements made without evidence, or ignoring contrary evidence, or appealing to ignorance or making faulty generalizations), then whining about the record being set straight and mis-attributing what they themselves wrote in order to make themselves look better. Even a single case of a type 1 diabetic's c-peptide levels rising at any point, and for any duration, and for any magnitude is sufficient to discredit this. Don't make stuff up. Quoting his responses [I]verbatim[/I]: "To then ask whether "insulin could be produced again" would imply that the pancreas can REGAIN functionality, which we both know is virtually impossible." [U]INCORRECT.[/U] I have achieved this, two years ago. I have regained partial functionality, briefly, which qualifies as "regaining functionality". 100% restoration is not necessary. Permanent restoration either. Because...Logic. If one can restore even partial insulin production, even for only a brief period of time, that is sufficient to invalidate his claim of "impossibility". Do I need to break out a dictionary here? Seriously. Clearly, something that has happened, in several cases is therefore NOT impossible. "I just wanted to know that could insulin be produced again" To which he answered: "No." [U]INCORRECT.[/U] Don't make broad, sweeping, inaccurate statements and then complain when people call you out on it. We're all adults here. If I say something incorrect and there's contrary evidence out there (there are LITERALLY dozens of scientific studies showing c-peptide levels rising, in humans, for various reasons). [/QUOTE]
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