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Can't work out why I have prediabetes

CherryH

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I'm confused as to why I have prediabetes. This has shown up in an NHS routine blood test and I need to be tested again in 3 months after trying to change my lifestyle. I'm 64, slim, eat well and am active. I had breast cancer last year with surgery, radiotherapy and now a hormone blocker called anastrozole plus a hefty calcium/vit D supplement as anastrozole can cause osteoporosis. It also blocks oestrogen as my cancer was hormone receptive.

I confess to having been a heavy drinker, perhaps 5 bottles of wine a week, which I have now stopped.

Will this alone rectify my blood sugar levels or is something else going on? Like do calcium supplements and eostrogen blockers trigger prediabetes? I just wonder how many lifestyle changes I need (or am able) to exercise to effect improvement?

Anyone got any answers, info or advice?

Thanks! Cherry
 
Is your diet high in carbohydrates? Can you give us an idea of your daily diet? Slim people can go onto develop diabetes, some people can develop late type 1. I am sure Daisy will come along and give you some advice soon.
 
Hi Cherry and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members, as mentioned by Sassywriter, and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful to you. Carry on asking questions as there is always someone who can help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hello Cherryh, welcome to the forum.
Your situation sounds similar to mine - I am 69 and was diagnosed last August, with "full blown" type2 rather than pre-diabetes. I had surgery for breast cancer nearly 5 years ago, same treatment as you, and have been taking anastrozole, due to finish in the early summer.
Like you, I was rather shocked by the diagnosis - although I was overweight, but not obese, had no real symptoms except in retrospect realised I was very tired all the time but put that down to the aftereffects of the cancer! No family genetic history, as far as I know. I initially put it down to bad luck, my pancreas having become rather worn out.
I have since discovered a some interesting things. Have you been on any blood pressure medication? I had been on Atenolol and a diuretic (can't remember the name). Atenolol, to quote Wikipedia, "It was the main β-blocker identified as carrying a higher risk of provoking type 2 diabetes, leading to its downgrading in the United Kingdom in June 2006 to fourth-line agent in the management of hypertension". Like millions of others I was continued to be prescribed it (it's very cheap). I have drawn my own conclusions about the outcome in my case and no longer take it!
It also appears that there are , or can be links between breast cancer and raised blood sugar levels.
Hopefully you'll be able to bring your blood glucose levels back down and not develop full diabetes. Daisy's posts has lots of good advice. I feel healthier and fitter now than I have done for years, have been following a strict low carb diet since diagnosis, lost my surplus weight and my most recent blood tests gave readings at normal levels - no medication.
So, I don't have any answers I'm afraid. Sometimes it seems these things just happen. I'm sure you'll overcome this latest challenge. The very best of luck.
Anne
 
They were VERY intersting replies - thanks! Sassy, you were right, Daisy followed with substantial info and advice. I need to read all that again, slowly, digest it all and research some more - that gives me a good foundation to work on - many thanks, Daisy. And Anne, it was really good to hear from you and always somehow friendly and comforting to have someone who's had the same problems. It was really encouraging to hear you say you feel fitter now than you have done for years and well done on looking after yourself and being so positive. Mmm, looks like I need to think about carbs, though I can't think I overdo them. Anyway, I'll look into all this much more and improve everything I can think of! But I think I'll still quit the booze as it was a bit excess ...

Thanks all,

Cherry
 
Hi Cherry, I was diagnosed with prediabetes a couple of years ago and like you am slim and active, however I haven't had breast cancer, I do like a drink though, my tipple is red wine which actually is ok on my low carb diet, although I am not quite up to 5 bottles a week! My gp was very surprised at the result and put it down to genetics and suggested a retest in 3 months like yours.

I was very concerned at my prediabetes as type 1 and 2 are in my family and I have witnessed my mother's health problems due to type 2 so I determind to sort myself out! I found this forum and have low carbed ever since, with my doctor's ok and all my results are normal now. It is not easy, particularly at first but it becomes better!
 
It may be worth mentioning here that, despite the media hype about obese, lazy people getting type 2 diabetes, at least 20% of type 2's were slim and active and healthy at diagnosis.
 
Lucy,

searching for a reference for the figure.
Do you have one to hand?
[Or anyone else? Seeing my health care team in a hour to chat about such stuff.]

Google suggests that 80% is a favourite statistic for all sorts of things.

Cheers

LGC
 
LittleGreyCat said:
Lucy,

searching for a reference for the figure.
Do you have one to hand?
[Or anyone else? Seeing my health care team in a hour to chat about such stuff.]

Google suggests that 80% is a favourite statistic for all sorts of things.

Cheers
LGC

Seems to be a common figure used.
According to the International Diabetes Federation (IDF), worldwide 80 per cent of people with Type 2 diabetes are overweight or obese at the time of diagnosis.
http://www.diabetes.org.uk/About_us/New ... ates-soar/

That comes up a lot of times but I haven't actually found the original reference nor a citation.
US:
About 80 percent of people with type 2 diabetes are overweight or obese.
http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/o ... index.aspx
The US figure is confirmed in this study
80.3% of diabetics were considered overweight (BMI ≥ 25) and 49.1% of diabetics were considered obese (BMI ≥ 30).
http://www.hopkinsguides.com/hopkins/ub ... l_citation
Also Australia
The AusDiab Study reported
that 80% of people with diabetes were overweight or obese compared with 59% of people
without diabetes (Dunstan et al, 2002).
http://www.diabetesaustralia.com.au/Pag ... deline.pdf
 
I have just recently been diagnosed with pre-diabetes and I have Stage IV Ovarian Cancer although I am currently in remission. My first question to the GP was could this be related to my cancer i.e. could there be cancer cells interfering with my pancreas. I don't think the young GP understood my question as he said no cancer treatments would not do this so this is probably a question for my oncologist or CNS.

I am overweight though and I put on quite a bit of weight following surgery as unable to exercise for 3 months and the steroids they give you to help with the sickness make you hungry. Exercising post treatment as been challenging as I fatigue quickly and get really breathless so much so then I spent a couple of days in hospital whilst I was checked out for a PE.
 
Steroids can give you diabetes as well, although I think it is dependent on his long you are on them and what dose.
 
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