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Jo_the_boat

Jo_the_boat

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Here's another item for your knowledge base......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/art...&intc_linkname=article_carbfacts_contentcard2

Just out of interest I came across this article via a like from another one about Chris Froome, the UK cyclist. In that one it stated that the body can only absorb 90 grams of carbs an hour! Now that is referring to a super-fit sportsman, some of us struggle to absorb 90 grams a week!
 
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Thanks for posting; Love the cracker test although it is sadly irrelevant for a type 1 (pancreas already busted).
I think Chris Froome means the glycogen storage depots in muscle and liver are very limited (1 -1.5 hours' worth of cycling energy 600 kcals or so I think) whereas the fat storage depots contain many more calories although Chris Froome has much less fat than most! If you do low carb you can get your body to preferentially burn more fat even when doing mammoth cycle rides thus less need to refuel and less risk of 'bonking' because you didn't..
 
Just watched it on iPlayer. Very interesting, thanks for the link. I remember doing the cracker test 50 years ago when believe it or not I studied Physical Education as a subsidiary subject. We were just demonstrating that carbs can turn to glucose in the mouth because of the enzymes present. I wish I'd known that taking longer to notice the change in taste was an indication of how well we process carbs.

I thought it was a good program, baring in mind the audience. I'm not going to say anything about the use of the word "reversal" when talking about diabetes. The more people watching their carb intake, the better. I'll even overlook the use of the word "discovery" when he was speaking about Dr Unwin and the regime change he recommends to his patients. Good for him, but I think Claude Bernard (1813 - 1878) got there first, who cares? LOL

I've obviously got some teeth missing in my fine tooth comb. I quite fancy a T-shirt with an intestinal tract design. I know the one in the program was CGI, clever though.
 
I too thought it was a very good well balanced programme. It wasn’t aimed at diabetics per se but the population as a whole and something that needs to be taken on board. Wasn’t it interesting the perceptions people had about how much sugar was in each individual food item. That jacket potato shocked them!
 
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Just watched it on iPlayer. Very interesting, thanks for the link. I remember doing the cracker test 50 years ago when believe it or not I studied Physical Education as a subsidiary subject. We were just demonstrating that carbs can turn to glucose in the mouth because of the enzymes present. I wish I'd known that taking longer to notice the change in taste was an indication of how well we process carbs.

I thought it was a good program, baring in mind the audience. I'm not going to say anything about the use of the word "reversal" when talking about diabetes. The more people watching their carb intake, the better. I'll even overlook the use of the word "discovery" when he was speaking about Dr Unwin and the regime change he recommends to his patients. Good for him, but I think Claude Bernard (1813 - 1878) got there first, who cares? LOL

I've obviously got some teeth missing in my fine tooth comb. I quite fancy a T-shirt with an intestinal tract design. I know the one in the program was CGI, clever though.
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Your wish is my command...
http://www.skeletees.com/#/stomach/
 
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Also very interesting that they were all 100% on board with the idea of sugar being bad for you, but not relating it to carbs.
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Proving that if the message was about reducing carbs and not just sugar (as in the sugar tax) the message would filter through to people.
 
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Also very interesting that they were all 100% on board with the idea of sugar being bad for you, but not relating it to carbs.
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Proving that if the message was about reducing carbs and not just sugar (as in the sugar tax) the message would filter through to people.
 
Thanks for the YT link. It was a strong low carb promotion, and I liked the comment at the end that the Royal College is going to be pushing out this advice to GPs. So the UK may eat well after all. Of course this may also promote a bit of a bun fight given the Nutritionists have been critical of low carb recommendations.
 
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Thanks for the YT link. It was a strong low carb promotion, and I liked the comment at the end that the Royal College is going to be pushing out this advice to GPs. So the UK may eat well after all. Of course this may also promote a bit of a bun fight given the Nutritionists have been critical of low carb recommendations.
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It's going to raise awareness among patients, and put pressure on HCPs. All I've heard for three years is complete rubbish. This may force a change.
 
first14808 said:
the Nutritionists have been critical of low carb recommendations.
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Which Nutritionists? My Nutritional Therapist has a BSc in Nutritional Medicine and is a member of the British Association of Nutritional Therapists. She is responsible for me following a low carb diet. Would it be the ones without any qualifications?
 
DavidGrahamJones said:
Which Nutritionists? My Nutritional Therapist has a BSc in Nutritional Medicine and is a member of the British Association of Nutritional Therapists. She is responsible for me following a low carb diet. Would it be the ones without any qualifications?
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This is my favorite example:-

https://www.nutrition.org.uk/nutritioninthenews/headlines/pioppidiet.html

The advice to cut out starchy carbohydrates such as bread pasta and rice is inconsistent with a Mediterranean dietary pattern, which typically includes these foods (mostly wholegrains) at every meal. For more information see http://mediterradiet.org/nutrition/mediterranean_diet_pyramid

It is also important to note that the Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition (SACN) reviewed the available evidence and did not find an association between total carbohydrate intake and type 2 diabetes and obesity, Rather they found that dietary fibre – which wholegrains make an important contribution to in our diet – is associated with lower risk of type 2 diabetes.
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They're not the trade body, but they're a typical NGO 'influencer'.
 
Very interesting, thank you. I see what you mean about Bun fight.

Even BANT seem to thing that root vegetables and unrefined grains seem to be OK whereas refined grans affect the body in the same way as sugar (strange way of saying converts to glucose). I don't know if they think root vegetables and unrefined grains don't.
 
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