Seen it elsewhere....... :wink: Nothing really new as far as I can see. Still the same old argument about fat........good or bad ? 'Nutritional' Ketosis is nothing to get worked up about.......it just means Ketosis, the usual fat burning mode if low carbing. Someone just decided to add the prefix to Ketosis.
The thing is we are all talking about reducing carb intake.......that has to be a good thing. However, the trial groups were American who it seems eat 'shedloads' of stuff.
Americans, on average, eat 250 to 300 grams of carbs a day
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The groups were divided into low carb/high fat and low fat/high carbs. Why wasn't there a group who ate low carb/low fat ? Surely that would be more logical and would end this ridiculous claim that 'Fat is Good' once and for all ! Back to back trials of what most of us do. That seems more logical.
The way they conduct the trials now the results are ALWAYS going to be skewed in favour of anythng that reduces carbs.......the variable is fat. Every time one of these WOW.......now they are coming round to 'our way of thinking' articles appears the 'cherry picking' begins again.
Those of us on here who have great control do NOT eat masses of carbs.......my own consumption at the moment is less than 40g per day. I don't have to eat high fat to do that, it still works. So, why the thought in some circles that if we eat low fat........we must eat high carbs. A load of b%*££*%^s !
I know from looking around that I eat less carbs than some famous low carbers........who seem to be having problems, having to take medication, go on what is termed a starvation diet. Is it the high fat that is causing their problems. As Patch says, "I dunno !" I have lost a load of weight, reduced medication down to minimal levels.......the only difference is I low fat, they high fat........ :?:
Now we on here have always advocated cutting the carbs back, whatever level that is is up to the individual. What figure they start from. We don't go around telling everybody that joins here to eat high fat or low fat, again that is up to the individual and their own personal and medical circumstances. There was a member who dredged up an old (2008) post just to tell the guy that fat is fine, fat doesn't matter ! How the hell does that member know ! If that member was like me it wouldn't be fine ! It would be horrendous. Been there etc........
That member knows nothing of a persons medical background, there may be a reason why too much fat could actually kill them ! So to tell them that Fat is good and OK is highly irresponsible unless you are in possession of ALL the relevant facts. Ask questions before you do a fellow Diabetic, a fellow member a diservice and give them bad advice. As stated elsewhere.....there is more to controlling Diabetes than just Bg readings and what affects them. MANY things can affect the human body........it's a complex system and has to be looked at holistically, not just concentrate on one particular area such as fat.......
We can see from the results that whether it is high or low fat most, as myself and others do very well on a reduced carb/low fat diet. There are those that also do well on low carb/high fat. If that works for them who are we to criticise and tell them it should always be low fat.........if it works, good for you. I have tried both ways and the one that worked best for me overall was LOW fat.
There is more than one way to achieve great Diabetes control......all involve reduction of carbs, unless you hit it with Insulin. Personally, I don't see the need for any 'whoopin and a hollerin' as they say.....!' Nothing much new really, but I see the usual suspects see it as a Eureka moment.
