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Carbohydrates?

Pura Vida

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Do you agree?


https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/why-diabetics-need-carbohydrates-280726/
Why Diabetics Need Carbohydrates




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Carbohydrates seem to have a bad reputation, especially among insulin-dependent diabetics. As soon as we are diagnosed, we learn that carbohydrates are the key (or the downfall) to good glycemic control. We count them, we dose our insulin for them, and if we get it wrong, we struggle with high or low blood sugars for hours.

Many of us also experience weight gain when we start using insulin, so it’s natural to feel that just eliminating all carbohydrates, and not having to use so much insulin, is the best solution to weight management.

In general, I think low carbohydrate diets have their place and time, but I want to make the case that carbohydrates, at the right time and quantity, can actually be beneficial and help you reach your goals, especially if you live an active fitness lifestyle with diabetes.

Why are some carbohydrates better than others?
If you eat large amounts of high glycemic carbohydrates, your blood sugars will quickly go through the roof (diabetic or not) and your body will need large amounts of insulin to get your blood sugars down to a healthy range. That’s the perfect formula for instant fat storage (for more information about low and high glycemic carbohydrates, read this post).

If you eat moderate amounts of low glycemic carbohydrates instead, you won’t see that blood sugar spike. You’ll still need insulin of course, but rather than promoting instant fat storage, the insulin will help convert the carbohydrates into the energy your body needs in order to maintain your brain activity, fuel your muscles, and keep your metabolism running.

If you are a fitness nut like me, carbohydrates are a valuable tool that shouldn’t just be cut out of your diet completely. However, the amount and type of carbohydrates you consume should match what your fitness goals are. I have had very different fitness goals at different times, and I want to take you through how I managed my carbohydrate intake through each of those phases.

It’s very important to keep in mind that when I talk about carbohydrates below, I only include “hard” carbohydrates like rice, pasta, quinoa, potato, etc. I also eat a lot of vegetables like broccoli, asparagus, and cauliflower that contain carbohydrates, but I don’t measure them because they have so few calories and a minimal impact on my blood sugar. They are essentially “free food.” I probably get another 30-50 grams of carbs or more per day from vegetables.
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Totally agree.

There is no way I could maintain my HbA1c and go out on a long duration cycle without both:

-Carb based meal before (breakfast: 40g carb, for example)
-Drink on my bike (90g High5 mixture - no idea what it's called - but 90g will take me through a 60 mile bike ride.

I'm sure I could change all of this, but this is the one reason I can't/don't is because I exercise when I want and how much I want. It's not regular enough for me to adjust my basal. As such, I have a higher basal for when I'm not doing big cycles, and for when I do exercise heavily - I compensate with carb based meals/drinks.

If you were to exercise the same amount everyday then I'm sure carbs could play a lesser part in the operation. However, I'm too sporadic and would rather compensate by drinking sugary fluids when I do chose to exercise.

Grant
 
I disagree. My body functions very well on ketones. GI / GL makes no difference in my bs. Lettuce will raise me. Under 20 carbs works miracles for my bs. Just my stance.....
 
@Pura Vida
Thank you for an alternative view, - very unusual in here, and somewhat reassuring.
I am a recent newcomer here, and have taken my 'fate' as a kick in the pants. I have cut down significantly on all Carbs, but now also need my 'phys' virtually daily - and in the main really enjoying what I can now achieve. The HCPs and the wife have ALL stressed the need to 'fuel' my activity, which I believe has worked - so far. I weigh 20% less than what I did, in 10 weeks my Hba1c is down from 11 to 7.3 and my BMI from 33.1 to 27.2 - I'd like to think I'm doing something right???
 
We are all diabetics but also all very different. I've chosen to go low carb and it is working for me, all my markers are down and I feel better. I swim hard for 30 minutes every day and have enough body fuel, feel more awake than I have in years.

Find what works for you and stick to it if you want to maintain good control, it might be carbs for you - for me however it's firmly LCHF.
 
@Pura Vida . Couldn't agree with you more. Heavy weight training and high intensity interval training 6 days a week demand carbs for me. We are all different and if lchf works fair enough. Keep carbing up :D:D:D
 
Well, having read the whole article, she is an insulin user and clearly isn't talking about carbs as potato, rice and pasta and bread - all the carbs that are generally considered to be 'carby'. She refers to Low Glycaemic carbs repeatedly, and talks about timing their ingestion to fit around her workouts.

She talks about a time when she was eating masses of veg and LG carbs, up to around 140-160g. That is as high as she goes. Some people would still consider that in the low carb range.

She then talks about her weight when she was carb cycling period when she was trying to lose weight. Several days on 20g and then one day of 60g of low glycaemic carbs.

She is also talking specifically about her lifestyle where she is fit, healthy, very active and describing herself as 'a fitness nut'.

Since she is talking from those points of view, and posting on something called TheFitBlog, I would suggest her comments are relevant to slim, fit, highly active 'fitness nuts' who are also insulin users.

In other words, it is rubbish advice for me, with my body and dietary restrictions and lifestyle.
 
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Well having MG exercise is very difficult for me in fact often a virtual impossibility so low carb medium to high fat and tight control of calorific intake was the only route for me I wouldn't recommend it to every one but it worked for me.
 
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