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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 1862449" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>In the thread that this one was moved from. the hypothesis being discussed was that low carb diets are dangerous. The proper counter argument is that carbs are dangerous. If carbs are indeed proven to be inflammatory in the true sense that eating carbs triggers the body's immune system to act to fight them as a foreign body invading, then that forms a valid part of the original argument. However, if the response is not actually from the immune system per se, then it becomes part of the normal working of the body, and is how we are designed to operate, thus making the carb-causes-pain scenario due to other mechanisms in the body that are not in themselves metabolism or diet related. Hopef ully this is what we will discuss in more detail here.</p><p></p><p>I have found 3 reports from endocrinologists that suggest that the IL-6 marker of immunity being in action is actually a normal response forming part of the normal metabollism pathway, and so the term inflammatory is being incorrectly applied. So far we have anecdotal evidence supplied, but no research to back it up. Has anyone got any suitable source info that confirms immune system fighting carbs?</p><p></p><p>We accept that T1D is a result of an auto immune disorder, but is it resulting from a carb trigger? I believe that there is perhaps a better marker for immune system induced inflammation which is the C-Reactive protein (CRP), and so we could actually say we are feeling CRP and mean it.. Any thoughts on this, any reports on this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 1862449, member: 196898"] In the thread that this one was moved from. the hypothesis being discussed was that low carb diets are dangerous. The proper counter argument is that carbs are dangerous. If carbs are indeed proven to be inflammatory in the true sense that eating carbs triggers the body's immune system to act to fight them as a foreign body invading, then that forms a valid part of the original argument. However, if the response is not actually from the immune system per se, then it becomes part of the normal working of the body, and is how we are designed to operate, thus making the carb-causes-pain scenario due to other mechanisms in the body that are not in themselves metabolism or diet related. Hopef ully this is what we will discuss in more detail here. I have found 3 reports from endocrinologists that suggest that the IL-6 marker of immunity being in action is actually a normal response forming part of the normal metabollism pathway, and so the term inflammatory is being incorrectly applied. So far we have anecdotal evidence supplied, but no research to back it up. Has anyone got any suitable source info that confirms immune system fighting carbs? We accept that T1D is a result of an auto immune disorder, but is it resulting from a carb trigger? I believe that there is perhaps a better marker for immune system induced inflammation which is the C-Reactive protein (CRP), and so we could actually say we are feeling CRP and mean it.. Any thoughts on this, any reports on this? [/QUOTE]
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