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Change from Lantus to Abasaglar KwikPen

edmundozeta

edmundozeta

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Is there anyone here change from Lantus to Abasaglar KwikPen by NHS?

I just received a letter days ago that they are prescribing Abasaglar KwikPen because its more cheaper

My concern is do I have to inject same number of units same as Lantus when I start with this new prescribed insulin Abasaglar KwikPen

Thanks
 
edmundozeta said:
Is there anyone here change from Lantus to Abasaglar KwikPen by NHS?

I just received a letter days ago that they are prescribing Abasaglar KwikPen because its more cheaper

My concern is do I have to inject same number of units same as Lantus when I start with this new prescribed insulin Abasaglar KwikPen

Thanks
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Until fairly recently I was on twice a day mixed insulin, but have been using Abasaglar since mid January.

I knew that I had previously been taking about 18units of long acting insulin each day in the 25Mix, but it was recommended to me to reduce my daily dose to 8 units which I did. Since mid Jan I've increased this slowly to 16 units per day.

I suppose what I'm suggesting is that it's (probably) better to be cautious and find out how Abasaglar behaves in your body, than to risk hypo's that are difficult to control. If you have doubts though, go back to your diabetes team for advice.
 
Abasaglar and lantus are the same thing. One is the generic version. One is the brand name version.
 
As @catapillar says, they are the same thing.
The patent on Lantus has run out which makes it possible for others to follow the same recipe to make the same thing cheaper.
 
catapillar said:
Abasaglar and lantus are the same thing. One is the generic version. One is the brand name version.
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Abasaglar is not a generic form of Lantus,
https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/are-basaglar-and-lantus-the-same/452

"So, our conclusion should be that:

  • Basaglar is chemically close to Lantus but may not be the same

  • Statistically, Basaglar behaves in the same manner as Lantus for groups of people. So it is likely that it would behave the same for you.

  • It may not behave the same for individuals. So there is a possibility that you could be an exception to the statistics."
 
urbanracer said:
Abasaglar is not a generic form of Lantus,
https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/are-basaglar-and-lantus-the-same/452

"So, our conclusion should be that:

  • Basaglar is chemically close to Lantus but may not be the same

  • Statistically, Basaglar behaves in the same manner as Lantus for groups of people. So it is likely that it would behave the same for you.

  • It may not behave the same for individuals. So there is a possibility that you could be an exception to the statistics."
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You appear to be quoting from a forum to prove something. As the thing you are trying to prove is that something I said on a forum is wrong, it wouldn't take a genius to conclude that something said on the forum referenced can be just as wrong.

Both lantus and Abasaglar have the same active ingredient, insulin glargine. Abasaglar is bio similar to lantus. It has been shown in clinical trials to have the same action profile - https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/201...n-glargine-biosimilar-abasaglar-96569539.html - my understanding from that is that Abasaglar is the generic form of lantus.
 
catapillar said:
You appear to be quoting from a forum to prove something. As the thing you are trying to prove is that something I said on a forum is wrong, it wouldn't take a genius to conclude that something said on the forum referenced can be just as wrong.

Both lantus and Abasaglar have the same active ingredient, insulin glargine. Abasaglar is bio similar to lantus. It has been shown in clinical trials to have the same action profile - https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/201...n-glargine-biosimilar-abasaglar-96569539.html - my understanding from that is that Abasaglar is the generic form of lantus.
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To be 'generic' it would have to be identical in every respect. It isn't.
https://www.basaglar.com

Edited to add:-
"Basaglar, from Eli Lilly and Company and Boehringer Ingelheim Pharmaceuticals, Inc. is not technically a generic to Lantus.............."
https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/generic-basaglar-is-cheaper-than-lantus-but-does-it-work-324843/

And......
"Abasaglar (insulin glargine) is the newest brand of long-acting insulin to hit the market. It shares its active ingredient (insulin glargine) with Lantus, but is not a generic equivalent and the two can’t be substituted for each other."
https://www.goodrx.com/blog/new-insulin-basaglar-in-pharmacies-this-year/
 
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