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<blockquote data-quote="Ryhia" data-source="post: 2594474" data-attributes="member: 503862"><p>Yes my numbers were 10 and I was referred to the lipid clinic in 2020. The only good thing that came out of that was they did an Apob test along with the usual bloods. Apob levels are supposed to be a better indication of CVD risk. The lipid clinic also talked about my the Qrisk score - the Qrisk calculator is found here <a href="https://qrisk.org/" target="_blank">https://qrisk.org/</a>. The scoring is actually a post code lottery depending on where you live. I cannot get my risk down below 9% simply because of age and where I live. My Qrisk score came back at19% when i included diabetes (even though I have kept my bloods under control for the last 4 years) and having high cholesterol. I refused the statin that was offered as I had read so much adverse information. I did try to drop the cholesterol by changing my diet, even started using plant stanols but my memory started to be suspect - not sure if that's just old age but didn't want to risk it as other folk on this forum have recorded memory issues with statins so did not want to chance that the plant stanols were affecting my memory. I modified my diet which helped to a certain extent, got my bloods down to 7.6 but none of the medics were happy and wanted me on a high dose of statins. The lipid consultant basically said my issue was what I was eating and that i needed to change my diet. So if I ate more carbs, my cholesterol was likely come down however if I up my carbs my blood levels start to rise. Bit of a no win situation.</p><p></p><p>Dave Feldman of Cholesterolcode.com has done a lot of research regarding Cholesterol - his cholesterol was really high so he started experimenting on himself. He suggested that eating something between 90 and 120 gms of carbs a day may bring cholesterol down. If you can manage that and still keep bloods on track it may be worth a try. You can potentially also hack your cholesterol, (again something that Dave tried) by believe it or not, eating very few calories for 3 days, then eating lots of calories (around 3000) a day for 3 days whilst still keeping to low carb. I tried that and it does work after a fashion but its really an uncomfortable process and I certainly put on weight. I note that the experiment has now been removed not sure why. I am fortunate, in that I have my own lipid tester - its just a finger prick test and does record a little lower than a hospital veinous test but it does mean if I want I can keep a tab on what my lipids are doing. I got so fed up and stressed with what the medics were trying to force me into, that my doc has now put on my notes that I should not be hassled about my cholesterol.</p><p></p><p>A few weeks ago, I decided to check my lipids, I hadn't actually tested them for quite a while and certainly had not tried to interfere with levels recently. My cholesterol showed up at 5.44 which was quite a pleasant surprise. Its still too high for the medics but certainly fine with me. The only thing was that my ratios were actually worse. My Trigs had risen although still under 1 and my HDL had gone down to 1.3. I think the changes may have been caused by introducing low carb bread to my diet, just a guess but adding fibre is supposed to help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ryhia, post: 2594474, member: 503862"] Yes my numbers were 10 and I was referred to the lipid clinic in 2020. The only good thing that came out of that was they did an Apob test along with the usual bloods. Apob levels are supposed to be a better indication of CVD risk. The lipid clinic also talked about my the Qrisk score - the Qrisk calculator is found here [URL]https://qrisk.org/[/URL]. The scoring is actually a post code lottery depending on where you live. I cannot get my risk down below 9% simply because of age and where I live. My Qrisk score came back at19% when i included diabetes (even though I have kept my bloods under control for the last 4 years) and having high cholesterol. I refused the statin that was offered as I had read so much adverse information. I did try to drop the cholesterol by changing my diet, even started using plant stanols but my memory started to be suspect - not sure if that's just old age but didn't want to risk it as other folk on this forum have recorded memory issues with statins so did not want to chance that the plant stanols were affecting my memory. I modified my diet which helped to a certain extent, got my bloods down to 7.6 but none of the medics were happy and wanted me on a high dose of statins. The lipid consultant basically said my issue was what I was eating and that i needed to change my diet. So if I ate more carbs, my cholesterol was likely come down however if I up my carbs my blood levels start to rise. Bit of a no win situation. Dave Feldman of Cholesterolcode.com has done a lot of research regarding Cholesterol - his cholesterol was really high so he started experimenting on himself. He suggested that eating something between 90 and 120 gms of carbs a day may bring cholesterol down. If you can manage that and still keep bloods on track it may be worth a try. You can potentially also hack your cholesterol, (again something that Dave tried) by believe it or not, eating very few calories for 3 days, then eating lots of calories (around 3000) a day for 3 days whilst still keeping to low carb. I tried that and it does work after a fashion but its really an uncomfortable process and I certainly put on weight. I note that the experiment has now been removed not sure why. I am fortunate, in that I have my own lipid tester - its just a finger prick test and does record a little lower than a hospital veinous test but it does mean if I want I can keep a tab on what my lipids are doing. I got so fed up and stressed with what the medics were trying to force me into, that my doc has now put on my notes that I should not be hassled about my cholesterol. A few weeks ago, I decided to check my lipids, I hadn't actually tested them for quite a while and certainly had not tried to interfere with levels recently. My cholesterol showed up at 5.44 which was quite a pleasant surprise. Its still too high for the medics but certainly fine with me. The only thing was that my ratios were actually worse. My Trigs had risen although still under 1 and my HDL had gone down to 1.3. I think the changes may have been caused by introducing low carb bread to my diet, just a guess but adding fibre is supposed to help. [/QUOTE]
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