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toncra1

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Hi Guys
I was diagnosed with DT2 about 8 weeks ago.....bit dismayed?
Using diet only for control
Keeping my daily carbs low, not drinking to much wine or spirits now.
I`m on about 40 to 50 carbs a day and seem to be OK
I Get the results from an HbA1C test on Tuesday, will show whether I`v made any progress or not, so far?

Anyone else on diet only....It would be interesting to know how many carbs a day are keeping you in good figures

Regards

Toncra1
 

daisy1

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Re: Hello

Hi toncra1 and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will come along and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

toncra1

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Hello Daisy1

Thanks for the welcome, I look forward to using your Forum

Regards

Toncra1
 

Maitland

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Re: Hello

Welcome to the forum Toncra1.

Like yourself I am type 2 and controlling my diabetes by diet. I gradually reduced my carb intake down to around 30 - 50g per day. Lost 21 pounds in weight and reduced my blood sugars to normal levels.

Unfortunately about a wee ago I caught a very heavy cold that reduced my activity to nil. The fatigue I felt was ridiculous and I literally couldn't function.

I started to increase my food intake but not to the levels prior to my diagnosis but have found my blood glucose levels have increased to Impaired Fasting levels. I have also put on a couple of pounds.

I do not think that my fatigue was caused by my low carb diet but was just unlucky to pick up a heavy cold.

I am now feeling a lot better and hope to get back to my low carb regime on Monday. I have another 10 pounds of weight to lose and will hopefully get my blood sugars back to normal levels.

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toncra1

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Hi Guys
I have been taking Cinnamon for the last 8 weeks since I was diagnosed with D2
Also on a low carb regime but taking a good heaped spoonful of this herb mixed in my porridge every day for breakfast...
I will let you know how I get on with this.

Anyone else taking Cinnamon and if so have you had good results?
 

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Be careful which cinnamon you take, there are two varieties, the one typically available in a jar in the spice section of your supermarket contains coumarin which can cuase liver problems. Used in normal quantities in cooking it's fairly safe, consumed a teaspoon at a time on a dialy basis it isn't.

Best to look for cinnamom verum from your local health food store, it does not contain coumarin and is safe to take as a supplement, but it does cost around £15 a for 90 capsules.

I tried cinnamon and found it didn't make a different to either my day to day BG or to my HbA1C so I stopped.

I suspect the source of these so-called 'miracle cures', like cinnamon and green coffee is that a change in diet causes the improvement in health and a substance that is cheap to produce gets the credit, a few 'scholarly comments' from a pseudo expert on Natrual News and suddenly everyone believes and buys it at much inflated prices. If it really did work it would be used by the medical profession.
 

toncra1

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Hi guys,

I promised to let you know the results of my HbA1C test.

Well 8 weeks ago when I was diagnosed (Blood test taken 19th March) it was 70 and the result that I received today (From blood test taken 14th April) was 48

Great news.......I`m very pleased. That is within the target range.

Seems like the low carb diet and teaspoonful of Cinamon on my porridge each morning is having the right affect.

Does it inspire anyone to start on the Cinnamon?????
 

Vern

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Hi there!

I have been using Cinnamon T112 for about a year now and I find it very effective. My BG readings are in the 5.5 to 5.8 range now but I also LowCarb. I think the 2 are a great combination.


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kukka

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hi ive spent a lot of time reading up about cinnamon as i really want to try soemthing natural to try help my fluctuating bg levels

foudn a site which explains to that ceylon cinnamon is safer and not cassia as it can affect the liver in higher doses.

so came here hoping to find more information and advice as to where in uk to buy the ceylon cinnamon both in ground form so i can sprinkle on cereal and in tablet form

any recommendations anyone ? thank you
 

ilnar

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by definition, alternative medicine, has either not been proved to work, or proved not to work

do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work??

MEDICINE.