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Cold Turkey On Carbs

engie1967

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I'd appreciate other's thoughts. I'm newly diagnosed with T2 and have been advised to reduce carbs as far as possible.

First question, the labels say 'carbohydrates X, of which sugars Y'. Which is the important one?

And, what counts as a low carb food? Is it 5% or less? Should I calculate what's in the portion? And ... how many carbs should I have each day?

Finally, one of the things which alerted me that I may have diabetes was that when I haven't eaten for some time, I start to feel shaky and weak.

I think that may be 'hypo' (do tell me if I'm wrong). If I'm low carbing it, should I just ride through that or would it be better to have a bag of Jelly Babies waiting to ride to the rescue?

Advice and experience is very welcome.
 
Hi there
Total carbs are what counts I try to get everything below 5g per 100g.
I try for as few carbs as possible and went cold turkey from day 1 but that is the type of person I am. If you find self control harder then maybe cut out the obvious like bread, cakes, pasta, potatoes and anything with sugar then wean yourself down to less. The only carbs I now eat are green veg (inc cauliflower) and salad stuff oh yes an double cream for coffee and treats..
I would doubt you are having a hypo very much as to get that low you would need to be on some serious meds and if you haven't changed your diet much yet then it's almost impossible.
You may get some carb withdrawal symptoms, yes you have probably been addicted, as you cut down but that shouldn't last long.
If you're not sure what to eat take a look at the "what have you eaten today" thread on this forum or
http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
Any questions just ask...
All the best
Mark
 
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Hi @engie1967 and welcome to the forum. As well as all the great advice Mark has given @daisy1 will be along shortly with some basic information including a link to a free low carb course which will answer some of your questions. Good luck!
 
Go with Marks low carb adviced, it might seem tough at first but stay with it and I would suggest testings for blood glucose to get a visual on the effect your eating has.
 
Hi engie, It sounds as if you may have reactive hypoglycemia.PSE have a look at that section of the forum. You don't need to have meds to have hypos with R.H.!​
regards
Derek
I'd appreciate other's thoughts. I'm newly diagnosed with T2 and have been advised to reduce carbs as far as possible.

First question, the labels say 'carbohydrates X, of which sugars Y'. Which is the important one?

And, what counts as a low carb food? Is it 5% or less? Should I calculate what's in the portion? And ... how many carbs should I have each day?

Finally, one of the things which alerted me that I may have diabetes was that when I haven't eaten for some time, I start to feel shaky and weak.

I think that may be 'hypo' (do tell me if I'm wrong). If I'm low carbing it, should I just ride through that or would it be better to have a bag of Jelly Babies waiting to ride to the rescue?

Advice and experience is very welcome.
 
What are your sugar levels like at the moment ... if your very high then best to reduce the sugars levels a little slower than cold turkey .. Also test your sugars before eating sweets if feeling shaky .. as you may just be getting a false hypo, this happens because your body used to running on a high level.
Total carbs are counted, I aim to around 20g of carbs a day.. and don't forget to change all your low fat foods for full fat ones.
If you eat to your meter (take reading just before eating, then 2hrs after eating .. you then can see what foods increase your blood sugars.

(If your high sugar levels are affecting your vision, its really best to reduce slowly with the lower carbs)
 
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I'd appreciate other's thoughts. I'm newly diagnosed with T2 and have been advised to reduce carbs as far as possible.

First question, the labels say 'carbohydrates X, of which sugars Y'. Which is the important one?

And, what counts as a low carb food? Is it 5% or less? Should I calculate what's in the portion? And ... how many carbs should I have each day?

Finally, one of the things which alerted me that I may have diabetes was that when I haven't eaten for some time, I start to feel shaky and weak.

I think that may be 'hypo' (do tell me if I'm wrong). If I'm low carbing it, should I just ride through that or would it be better to have a bag of Jelly Babies waiting to ride to the rescue?

Advice and experience is very welcome.

Look at the total carbs. The "of which sugars" is not important as the sugar content is included in the carb total.

You need to calculate the portion size. 25% of a blob of something is insignificant. 25% of a whole tin or packet of something is very significant.

How many grams you eat is up to you and your personal threshold. This new way of eating has to be sustainable, most likely for the rest of your life. Some people go cold turkey on the carbs, others reduce them more gradually (I did this). It is up to you how you do it.

It may or may not be a hypo when you feel weak and shaky. It could equally be a hyper. Or it could be a false hypo. Or it may just be hunger. You won't know unless you have a blood glucose meter and test yourself when this happens.

Reducing carbs is the only way to go, but you do need a glucose meter. Many of us here use the Codefree because it has the cheapest test strips available, and you will need a lot of them. They are available here.

http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/


You will find this thread useful

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/
 
I think it's very important to do your own thing when switching to a Low Carb lifestyle, as it had to work and be sustainable for you.

Listen to the advice, but in the end do what works for you as proven by your own testing.

Me personally, I don't count my Carbs as that would make it all too complicated and therefore less sustainable. I would guess I am nearly always sub 30g a day, but it could be lower on certain days, rarely much higher.

Total Carbs is the only number to worry about, and I look for less than 10g per 100g on most things.

Find what works for you and good luck.
 
Hi engie, I'm new to all this as well. I cut out carbs from day 1, and yes I've had a few moments of dizzy/light-headed but I think it's just the old body getting used to a new regime.
I've found the advice and help on this site to be first class ( better than from my GP)
Go with the self testing despite what you may be told and you'll find you're own way, some things will spike your blood and yet will not affect others.
Above all don't panic, there's loads of us going through this and loads of help available on here.
 
@engie1967

Hello engie and welcome to the forum :) In addition to all the excellent advice you have received from members above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It gives you advice on carbs and a link to the Low Carb Program which you might like to try. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Yes I agree with britishpub you have to do your own thing and find out what you can eat it's no good going on what others say they can't eat because you may well be able to. I don't really do low carb just moderate and I don't eat red meat or full fat dairy so most of my fat comes from good oils but that is just my way. We are all very different so the only right way to eat is the way that suits you personally be that low carb high fat or anything in between
 
Sugar is a carb so dont be fooled by packaging.Low carb big targets to reduce or cut out intake White bread ,Pasta and,the humble spud (packing more than you realise) and of course the biggest bad ass of them all sugar
 
Also don't forget that any thing below 130gms of carbs can be considered as low but a lot of people here would never eat anywhere near that much as has been said here time after time it is up to you to decide what is best for you.

But test eat test and test again is a good regime to follow and will enable you to decide what to eat and what not to eat.

Best of luck.

John
 
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