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<blockquote data-quote="NewdestinyX" data-source="post: 206602" data-attributes="member: 35544"><p>Yes, yes! If by 'old ways' you mean eating too large portions, eating high carb <strong>+ high fat </strong> - and we end up packing the weight back on, indeed, the hyperglycemia symptoms would return.</p><p></p><p>But for the 80% group of us, that were overweight/obese at dx, there IS the hope of 'full remission' - I've known 4 now that have achieved it fully - where they can eat 'anything they want' in terms of carbic load and percentage with other macronutrients and neither spike nor have elevated (above fasting level) 2-3hrPP numbers. Now if they put the weight back on - that's when the symptoms could return - because for the 80% group of us - weight around the middle is the primary complicating issue in the onset of T2 (I used to believe, "the trigger" too, but I'm reevaluating that position). But for a lucky few that caught their T2D very early, and get back to normal weight, the remission they can achieve is not compromised by eating more carbs - just by any visceral fat weight gain they experience. Of course none of the people I'm referring to have decided to go back to >300g of carbs regularly. But Christmas dinner "cheats" don't 'spike them' at all from what they've told me nor leave them above fasting levels 2-3hrpp. That's what "I" call 'non-diabetic'.</p><p></p><p>I so wish Metformin has agreed with me - because of its other good qualities. Sadly, at any dose (I took as much as 2800mg) it didn't help BG levels, or A1c for me. That was back though when I was 20kgs heavier.. Maybe it would help now -- but I know my digestion couldn't handle it. Insulin has been my miracle drug along with moderating down my carbs and increasing my good fat intake. Powerful combo for me. I've achieve the same stats as any very low carbers except for my Dawn Phenomenon. Even at <30g of carbs a day - I couldn't get that number under 5.3-6.1. But as my IR as reduced my requirement for meds has dropped and dropped. For those lucky enough to be in the 80% "typical" group of T2's there's so much of D control and med dosing that's about weight loss. There are 20% for whom weight isn't the issue at all and that's always seemed a little unfair to me. But, hey, there's nothing 'fair' about this disease.. is there.. :roll:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NewdestinyX, post: 206602, member: 35544"] Yes, yes! If by 'old ways' you mean eating too large portions, eating high carb [b]+ high fat [/b] - and we end up packing the weight back on, indeed, the hyperglycemia symptoms would return. But for the 80% group of us, that were overweight/obese at dx, there IS the hope of 'full remission' - I've known 4 now that have achieved it fully - where they can eat 'anything they want' in terms of carbic load and percentage with other macronutrients and neither spike nor have elevated (above fasting level) 2-3hrPP numbers. Now if they put the weight back on - that's when the symptoms could return - because for the 80% group of us - weight around the middle is the primary complicating issue in the onset of T2 (I used to believe, "the trigger" too, but I'm reevaluating that position). But for a lucky few that caught their T2D very early, and get back to normal weight, the remission they can achieve is not compromised by eating more carbs - just by any visceral fat weight gain they experience. Of course none of the people I'm referring to have decided to go back to >300g of carbs regularly. But Christmas dinner "cheats" don't 'spike them' at all from what they've told me nor leave them above fasting levels 2-3hrpp. That's what "I" call 'non-diabetic'. I so wish Metformin has agreed with me - because of its other good qualities. Sadly, at any dose (I took as much as 2800mg) it didn't help BG levels, or A1c for me. That was back though when I was 20kgs heavier.. Maybe it would help now -- but I know my digestion couldn't handle it. Insulin has been my miracle drug along with moderating down my carbs and increasing my good fat intake. Powerful combo for me. I've achieve the same stats as any very low carbers except for my Dawn Phenomenon. Even at <30g of carbs a day - I couldn't get that number under 5.3-6.1. But as my IR as reduced my requirement for meds has dropped and dropped. For those lucky enough to be in the 80% "typical" group of T2's there's so much of D control and med dosing that's about weight loss. There are 20% for whom weight isn't the issue at all and that's always seemed a little unfair to me. But, hey, there's nothing 'fair' about this disease.. is there.. :roll: [/QUOTE]
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