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"Complete diabetic remission!"

Discussion in 'Success Stories and Testimonials' started by Ceres, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    for some strange reason I read that as "I bought the book the other day - still not got round to eating it" .. not sure if it would be low carb..
     
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  2. AndBreathe

    AndBreathe I reversed my Type 2 · Expert
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    Many folks find they can tolerate carbs a bit better as their body normalises and repairs itself, usually after a period of trimming the carbs and their waistline.

    I completely and totally agree with you about diet being utterly paramount in fighting T2. My take, at the outset was if I could modify my diet, into ideally non-diabetic ranges, but remained diabetic, then that was my given lot. If I focused wholly on weight loss, as I see some newbies do, expecting their bloods to follow their weight on a downward trend, then I'd be absolutely shattered if I lost a shed load of weight, but my bloods were still unsatisfactory, so I focused wholly on diet for bloods.

    Just one point about your "sensitive bladder issues"; without asking too much detail, that sort of chimes with me. I too sometimes get a sensitive bladder (of course could be completely different in nature to yours) whereby I have increased frequency, but very modest output, and discomfort whilst achieving the output. My solution has been to use these symptoms/feelings to signal I am not drinking enough and to jack up fluids, rather than any eating modifications. That works for me every time.

    I must and it, I am a bit of a maniac for making my self-diagnostic questioning begin with a simple, "are you drinking enough", as so, so, so many issues relate to dehydration - especially when low carbing and in ketosis.

    That may not be relevant to you, but many folks have commented on how much better they feel if they up their fluids. I don't know whether you had this issue rear or re-rear it's head in your winter or summer season, but here, in the Tropics (for now), I have to be far more mindful of fluid intake than in the UK.

    Nice to hear a good success story, and good luck with your onward journey.
     
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  3. donald.smith321

    donald.smith321 Prediabetes · Newbie

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    Is`nt 3.5-5.5 considered normal then if her fasting blood glucos reads 7.6 it is way to high ?
     
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    13lizanne Type 2 · Expert

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    @AndBreathe thank you for your post, I could have made an almost identical post myself - apart from the tropics bit, for tropics read "frozen north" I was a little concerned about feeling the need to frequently urinate with little result - feel reassured now! Thanks
     
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    fobbletops Type 2 · Active Member

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    Fantastic. congratulations.
     
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  6. Sunny

    Sunny Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well done- that's brilliant!!
     
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  7. SugarJunkie

    SugarJunkie Type 2 · Member

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    Absolutely wonderful, well done :)
     
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  8. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse · Well-Known Member

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    Quote from www.gp-update.co.uk
    "An HbA1c of <6.5%/48mmol/mol does not exclude type 2 diabetes. The HbA1c test
    is less sensitive than fasting glucose measurements"

    People with high red cell turnover e.g due to anaemia or pregnancy, or who have an unusual variant of haemoglobin can have a lower HbA1c than would be expected for their blood glucose levels.
     
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  9. kokhongw

    kokhongw I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Firstly congratulations on your excellent HbA1c result :) .

    As have been pointed out. HbA1c measures only the glucose aspect of diabetes. In reality our condition is one of insulin insensitvity (impaired glucose tolerance) and beta cell dysfunction (incorrect or inadequate insulin response) that eventually results in chronically elevated glucose level.

    Hence a good, enviable HbA1c, even < 5% is unable to provide a confirmation of that the underlying impairment has been fully corrected and healed. However the risks of diabetic complications resulting from elevated glucose is definitely greatly diminished.

    It would be therefore have been very interesting to see the results of another OGTT with full insulin measurement at HbA1c 4.6%. But I suppose that would not be practical.
     
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  10. TomGreen101

    TomGreen101 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Curious what happens if you eat a sugar loaded or carb loaded item?
     
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  11. redanne

    redanne Type 2 · Newbie

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    Well done to you. I know how hard it is as I was diagnosed 4 years ago after I went to local chemist for a blood sugar test. The reading was 13 and this was a fasting reading. I then went to doctor who confirmed diagnosis and was given 3 months to see if I could reduce it on my on which I did. I have just had my latest test and the HBA1C was down to only 32. Nurse says I don't need to go back for year. I am late 40s and was obese at start but now under 10 stone and 5ft still a bit to go but getting there. Go to gym 5 times a week and walk 30 min 5 days a week along with low carb food. Never felt healthier and people have started to notice change.
     
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  12. GVA2

    GVA2 Type 1 · Member

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    No test has 100% sensitivity or specificity. A1C has a n error rate of +/- 0.5% or 5mmol/Mol. OGTT are also very variable and much more dependant on subject and operator adhering to the protocol. 3 days of adequate CHO intake, correct fasting period and correct timing of venesection. Even when carried out correctly it, has significant variability. Another rather bizarre aspect of GTTs is that we give the same (huge) dose of glucose to a 55kg woman as we would to a 110kg male.This test is an anachronism. I very rarely order n OGTT for patients other than for gestational diabetes, for very specific reasons.
    Dysglycemia is part of a continuum. Lower glucose is desirable, and attempts to achieve lower BGLs are to be encouraged , as long as the risk benefit equation falls on the right side.
    It's easy to get fixated on the numbers. They are a very important and useful barometers that help track progress and quantify risk, but it's easy to be distracted by the minutiae.
     
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    DooWot Type 2 · Newbie

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    Well done you.
     
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  14. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    I'm delighted for you. Happy days! :)
     
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  15. Ceres

    Ceres I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, everyone!

    Sorry, I've not been on the board in awhile! I wanted to update you all, as I see there's been some interest about the way my body currently responds to carbohydrates. These days, it's rare for me to see any number higher than a 6 or 7, and that would only be in response to a carb-loaded meal. Even when I hit those numbers, my blood sugar very quickly drops back down into the 4s or low 5s (typically within two or three hours post-meal). I still try to eat less than 100g of carbs per day (because I genuinely believe a lower-carb diet is the best option for my health generally), but when I eat substantially more than that (say in excess of 200 or 300g of carbs, my blood sugar is still fine (i.e. might rise to 7, but will quickly drop back down to the 4s or low 5s again). My fasting blood sugar tends to be between 4.1 and 4.5 most days, and the bedtime measurement is about the same. I am a frequent blood sugar tester, and have been since diagnosis, and I saw my blood sugar improve as I lost weight. I believe that losing weight has significantly reduced my insulin resistance. I don't know about my beta cells, but they seem to be working okay! I have no issue (occasionally) eating large amounts of carbs these days, so I would actually like to take another OGTT and see what transpires. I will report back after I see my endocrinologist in a few weeks.

    As to whether I had actual 'diabetes' in the first place... there is so much contention as to what actually constitutes the disease, but by current diagnostic criteria, I did. And I believe that if I was to gain weight, my insulin resistance, and hence my diabetes, would return. I have now lost over 52kg from my highest weight last year, and have about 10 more to go until I attain a healthy BMI. I run, and go to the gym regularly. I feel amazing. I never thought I'd say this, but a diabetes diagnosis changed my life for the better. (Now I feel like I'm in an ad for diabetes!)
     
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  16. Hiitsme

    Hiitsme Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Pleased to see you are continuing to do really well, I hope you can lose the remainder of the weight you would like to lose. It's great to hear of people who have worked hard and got really good results and continue to get good results. Well done.
     
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  17. Arab Horse

    Arab Horse Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Very well done.
     
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  18. Ceres

    Ceres I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Saw my endocrinologist today. It's a no-go on the OGTT because he says he doesn't consider me diabetic anymore in any capacity. My latest HbA1c was 27 (again), and my fasting glucose was 4.3. These numbers are despite the fact that in the last few weeks I've been eating far more carbs than I have since diagnosis (naughty, I know! I'm back on the low-carb train now, I swear!). My good cholesterol is up (ratio 3.2), my triglycerides are down slightly (1.0). C-peptide normal, insulin normal.

    Just a brief update for those who are still curious! :)
     
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  19. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    You could always do you own test?
     
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  20. Hiitsme

    Hiitsme Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for posting @Ceres
    It's great to hear a continued success story. Well done.
     
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