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Confirmed today T2

Legslip

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi All,

though I expected the worst when the news came I was still knocked for six.

I'm not the most organised person at the best of times so am now seriously worried about controlling my diet and sugar.
Also quite sad that my days of being able to eat anything and everything without thinking are over.

Any advice on what to now stock in cupboards, fridge and freezer would be much appreciated.

Not a happy new year, staying sober and hate tea with no sugar. Wake up in the morning and no crunchy nut cornflakes or white bread with lashings of lime marmalade anymore :-(
 
Welcome. It seems daunting for sure. I was diagnosed a year ago and was in a real state of depression and anxiety for a while. It gets easier as you go along and there are lots of great people here to help and answer all your questions.
 
Hi legs lip welcome to the forum, you are in the best and most caring place, so this is where you start to learn and beat this illness and you will get the best advice and help .daisy1 will be along to give you the advices given to newly diagnosed members, keep posting and ask any q's you like , ::))
 
Hello and welcome!! I was diagnosed in June, felt shocked, worried and knew nothing! I was simply advised by the nurse practitioner to check this website- and thank god I did! There is lots of advice, information and support from lovely folks. Have a good read, ask lots of questions, we are all in the same boat. Read about low carb high fat- it has worked for many, myself included! Check my signature for my progress so far! Just think, it's a new year in an hour......make it your year to be in control!!
 
Hi Legslip and welcome. I was diagnosed type 2 in November after suffering a heart attack. At first they thought my abnormally high Blood Sugar count of 27 may have been due to the attack but I think deep down after reading the symptoms of diabetes I have probably been diabetic for about 3-4 years, putting it down to an age related thing. I'm 58 by the way. I have found the hardest thing to get my head around is food, what is good and what is bad for you but since joining this band of very merry people (and no I don't mean they're always ******) and reading some very useful posts on here, I am slowing beginning to learn. Ask what ever questions you may have and someone will be along to point you in the right direction.
Good luck:happy:
 
I imagine EVERYBODY can relate to that as it is a massive shock. But we all get thru it bit by little bit and a few months on, you settle into a routine. Good luck but get a feeling you won't need it with the right advice ... and plenty around here :)

Mike
 
everyone goes nuts the first week or two, it's a hell of a shock

treatment is diet, diet, diet, exercise, diet, diet, drugs, diet
a bit of holiday reading for you
it’s a long page and a few good video’s
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm



A dietician sitehttp://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/


blood testing

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

food counting

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/

Newcastle diet aims in 8+ weeks to mimic the rate of ~70% remission, for surgery T2http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/
Newcastle diet Lectures

http://www.fend-lectures.org/index.php?menu=view&id=94

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/events/public-lectures/item.php?roy-taylor-diabetes
shows BG lowering to normal rangeView attachment 8599
*Optifast site recommends 33%/20g more protein [tin of sardines or equivalent], this would help with any muscle loss

American diabetic association

Position Statement

http://www.professional.diabetes.org/admin/UserFiles/0 - Sean/dc132042 FINAL.pdf

Evidence is inconclusive for an ideal amount of total fat intake for people with diabetes;
therefore, goals should be individualized; fat quality appears to be far more important than quantity.


In people with type 2 diabetes, a Mediterranean-style, MUFA-rich [mono fats-rich] eating pattern may benefit
glycemic control and CVD risk factors and can therefore be recommended as an effective alternative to a lower-fat, higher-carbohydrate eating pattern.

SD codefree meter

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code ..5 packs 264086
 
Hi legslip and welcome to the one place where diabetic sanity reigns best :-) .

If you haven't already I suggest you get yourself a meter, and test 2 hours after eating. This way you can find out what foods spike you. I'm a T2 as well, as for me, all bread, cereals, grains, rice , and of course pastries etc spike me. Some more than others granted, but generally all these food items are very dastardly turned to sugars when we eat them . Hence an awful lot of type 2's are adopting the LCHF way of life. Putting it in a nutshell, I eat loads of high protein food, rich in animal fats, butter, cream, eggs, cheeses etc. I make up for potatoes using masses of steamed veg. I don't go hungry I assure you.

I started the LCHF way on the last day of Sept, and have lost 23lbs ...and my blood sugars are usually in the 5+ -6 range.

So don't panic, just read through the various posts and threads on here and ask any questions , no matter how trivial , someone is usually around 24/7

Good luck, and happy new year, and remember ' Eat to your Meter '
 
Hi there legslip,

At your age I had a heart attack, thought it was the end of the world. I soon realised that I had to make the best of the situation . In fact I had a great opportunity to turn things around ie exercise, stop smoking and to start healthy eating . The healthy eating came later because of the incorrect advice that was given way back then.

Anyway the point is you also have now the great chance to get back on track and enjoy good health , just ask plenty of questions and learn as much about your diabetes as you can. There are plenty of people with great experience here and they willingly share their wealth of knowledge.
In cricket terms you will need to move from leg slip and become a wicket keeper . All the very best in your new position.
 
@Legslip

Hello Legslip and welcome to the forum :) You did well to join this forum as you have come to the best place to learn how to look after yourself and to make many friends who understand and are living the same things as you are. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. It does get easier and you can wean yourself off sugary food. I have home made muesli for breakfast i.e. cold oats with seeds and stuff. Oats can spike the blood suagr but keep portions down and don't stew it into porridge. I sometimes have egg and bacon instead which is fine for us. I have low-GI bread but not too much. Just kep the carbs down and you can still enjoy the good range of proteins and also the fatty foods we have been told to avoid. I use sweeteners in my hot drinks.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum,
As everyone else has said, this is a really helpful and supportive place to be - and its good to see that some health professionals also recommend it because, as I've found, the people who are living with diabetes are generally the best and most useful source of information.
Do ask away, I did!
Don't panic, don't try to take it all in at once, it will all fall into place for you too.
Have you got a meter for testing your blood sugar levels? It is a really useful - if not essential - tool to have and if you are an organised person I'm sure you'll quickly find it something you appreciate.
Take care, post soon,
Bee Gee
 
Hi and welcome
The thing is to take it a day at a time and start to change your diet slowly .It is difficult when you have a really sweet tooth but cutting out the sugar stuff like cakes biscuits sugary drinks and sugar in tea to start with is the most important thing and will make a big difference to your BG levels. Go smaller portions on the starchy carbs like bread pasta and rice if you eat those A lot here do the low carb high fat LCHF diet which is more protein foods like red meat butter cream cheese eggs full fat yogurt and good oils like olive and coconut oil for cooking with plenty of green vegetables but they go lower or cut out altogether the root vegetables except celeriac which makes good mash
 
A warm welcome to the forum Legslip :)

Take on board the advice that Daisy has kindly provided above and you'll be fine.
 
Hi @Legslip , welcome. Certainly a shock, but what better day to start a new lifestyle!

Don't panic, you can manage this. Have a cooked breakfast (avoid the toast though) instead of the Crunchy Nut Cornflakes (I used to love them too, but you get over it). Do you know what your blood sugar levels were at diagnosis?

Have a good read around, and the thread linked in my sig below might be useful.

Good luck and ask questions when you like!
 
Wow,

didn't expect quite as many replies with so much advice in such a short time, Thank you all :)

Must confess went a bit crazy last night and ate an enormous tiramisu off set by drinking just one can of lager rather than a dozen on a normal new years eve but as the saying goes today is the first day of my life.

When diagnosed if I recall, finger test after fasting was 8.2, bloods pre 2 hour rest and wait was 7.9 and after 2 hours 14.5.

One good thing at the meeting with the nurse (Doctor too busy I guess) she asked how serious I was about making the correct choices I must have convinced her as she did supply me with a testing kit albeit with not many pin pricks or strips. At least I will get some indication of the effect of meals during the next 4 weeks until my next appointment.

I have a vision of many vodka, lime (oops no lime cordial) fresh lime and soda being drunk as there can't be much wrong with that beverage.
 
Wow,

didn't expect quite as many replies with so much advice in such a short time, Thank you all :)

Must confess went a bit crazy last night and ate an enormous tiramisu off set by drinking just one can of lager rather than a dozen on a normal new years eve but as the saying goes today is the first day of my life.

When diagnosed if I recall, finger test after fasting was 8.2, bloods pre 2 hour rest and wait was 7.9 and after 2 hours 14.5.

One good thing at the meeting with the nurse (Doctor too busy I guess) she asked how serious I was about making the correct choices I must have convinced her as she did supply me with a testing kit albeit with not many pin pricks or strips. At least I will get some indication of the effect of meals during the next 4 weeks until my next appointment.

I have a vision of many vodka, lime (oops no lime cordial) fresh lime and soda being drunk as there can't be much wrong with that beverage.

make sure you wash your hands properly to remove any contamination before doing the pin prick thing. Don't forget, if there's anything you need to know or not sure about, have a look on the net for a site that can help you.:D:D
 
Don't be surprised at all ... YOU signed up for this ride by getting on here (as I did three months back) so get ready.

We have some work to do :) Trust me, you WILL enjoy it :) Mike
 
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