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My fasting levels of between 4.4 and 5.2 = 10 hours normal bG (sleeping and pre-breakfast...I assume no spikes during the night)

That leaves 14 hours of the day

My bG returns to normal range within 2 hours of each of 3 meals = 8 hours normal bG (the other 6 (3x2) coming down to normal bG)

So, my period per day of normal bG is 18 out of 24 hours.

Should I be concerned? I am not, but would be interested to hear others' views.
 
Hello gezzathorpe .

Hope you dont mind but I have moved your post into here for you .
Set you up on your own thread .

Hope it helps get your some help and support soon .

Anna.
 
Hi gezzathorpe,
You appear to have enviable control,
and are either not eating carbs at all or have a pristine pancreas! :-) ;-)
BG tends to peak two hours after a meal and type 2's need to keep it below 8.5 by diet if possible.

If you have any doubts at all pse ask your doctor if he/she will do a Hba1c test...but if you tell him/her what you've told us he may think you worry too much about your health.
Hoping you don't get diabetes.
best wishes
Derek

gezzathorpe said:
My fasting levels of between 4.4 and 5.2 = 10 hours normal bG (sleeping and pre-breakfast...I assume no spikes during the night)

That leaves 14 hours of the day

My bG returns to normal range within 2 hours of each of 3 meals = 8 hours normal bG (the other 6 (3x2) coming down to normal bG)

So, my period per day of normal bG is 18 out of 24 hours.

Should I be concerned? I am not, but would be interested to hear others' views.
 
You sound better than me and I'm apparently normal! 6.7 this morning.

Well done you! What is your diet like? Ate you on some super low carb regime to keep everything in check like that? If so do you have to keep it strictly or can you slip up here and there but stay in range?


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lindisfel said:
Hi gezzathorpe,
You appear to have enviable control,
and are either not eating carbs at all or have a pristine pancreas! :-) ;-)
BG tends to peak two hours after a meal and type 2's need to keep it below 8.5 by diet if possible.

If you have any doubts at all pse ask your doctor if he/she will do a Hba1c test...but if you tell him/her what you've told us he may think you worry too much about your health.
Hoping you don't get diabetes.
best wishes
Derek

gezzathorpe said:
My fasting levels of between 4.4 and 5.2 = 10 hours normal bG (sleeping and pre-breakfast...I assume no spikes during the night)

That leaves 14 hours of the day

My bG returns to normal range within 2 hours of each of 3 meals = 8 hours normal bG (the other 6 (3x2) coming down to normal bG)

So, my period per day of normal bG is 18 out of 24 hours.

Should I be concerned? I am not, but would be interested to hear others' views.

I have to say I was a 'heavy drinker' when diagnosed about 4 years ago. I no longer drink, so perhaps my liver has recovered somewhat since. Perhaps I didn't ****** my pancreas (much) and maybe that explains things. I've got my next checkup early July, so I will update HbA1C then. It is quite surprising since I failed the glucose tolerance (lucozade) test with a vengeance. On the other hand, I have eaten pretty much the same for many years and am attuned to reasonably healthy eating. So maybe it was the wine!!

Hi, here are my recent evenings meals for a week (posted elsewhere already) ... I have listed below my evening meals for the last 7 days.I haven't a clue about portion size etc. but as a rough guide, each portion would be about 2-3 ladles full. My bG tends to reduce by about 1.0 every 20 minutes or so (how's that for being precise!) and so I do not feel that I am in danger of damaging persistent 'highs'.

Pork curry, peas, carrots, tomato juice, rice, cauliflour, courgettes 6.5

White pasta, courgettes, carrots, parmesan, tomato juice 5.7

Turkey stuffed with ham and cheese, double-breadcrumbed, brocolli, fennel bulb 6.3

Smoked haddock, cauliflour, boiled potatoes, bechemal cheese sauce 6.2

Pork loin steaks stuffed with blue stilton, red lentils, courgette, carrots, bechemal cheese sauce 6.0

Lamb steaks, cherry rice, broccoli, gravy (bechemal with soy sauce) 5.7

Sausages, sweet potato mash, cauliflour, baked beans 7.0
 
LittleWolf said:
You sound better than me and I'm apparently normal! 6.7 this morning.

Well done you! What is your diet like? Ate you on some super low carb regime to keep everything in check like that? If so do you have to keep it strictly or can you slip up here and there but stay in range?


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Hi, thanks ... I have just posted a reply to Lindisfel which you may be interested in. I have to say, I feel a bit of a charlatan. The reason for posting my daily bG was to highlight the fact that for 18 hours or so my bGs are normal, rather than on what foods sent me over after each meal. It puts a different perspective on daily totals. Although your fasting level is a bit higher than mine, my attitude is that you are within the norm with 6.7, although I am sure you would want to see it lower. Perhaps, over the total day your picture may not be a lot different to mine in terms of number of hours within limit. I am not sure if I am looking at this the right way, but if I am, then my exposure to over the limit is limited to 3-6 hours per day which I don't think relates to long-term, persistent highs which are what can cause long-term complicatons. Maybe others have a similar pattern?
 
gezzathorpe said:
LittleWolf said:
You sound better than me and I'm apparently normal! 6.7 this morning.

Well done you! What is your diet like? Ate you on some super low carb regime to keep everything in check like that? If so do you have to keep it strictly or can you slip up here and there but stay in range?


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Hi, thanks ... I have just posted a reply to Lindisfel which you may be interested in. I have to say, I feel a bit of a charlatan. The reason for posting my daily bG was to highlight the fact that for 18 hours or so my bGs are normal, rather than on what foods sent me over after each meal. It puts a different perspective on daily totals. Although your fasting level is a bit higher than mine, my attitude is that you are within the norm with 6.7, although I am sure you would want to see it lower. Perhaps, over the total day your picture may not be a lot different to mine in terms of number of hours within limit. I am not sure if I am looking at this the right way, but if I am, then my exposure to over the limit is limited to 3-6 hours per day which I don't think relates to long-term, persistent highs which are what can cause long-term complicatons. Maybe others have a similar pattern?

PS ... I don't 'do' low-carb diets. Have been there before with Herbalife, before I was diagnosed. I prefer adjusting my normal eating rather than cutting down on lots of things at once, as I wouldn't know which food was doing what. I am losing about 1lb per week which I am happy with. I would be very worried if I lost a lot more than that per week.
 
I am a non diabetic

Fasting 6.7 was the last I gave you but it was 7.2 yesterday.

At one hour I'm hitting as high as 15 frequently now, 2 hours, around 10. Back to 7 ish after 4 hours then tends to just stick between 6.5 and 7 if I don't eat again.

if the point at which damage happens is 7.8, then for only 3 hours after each meal are those numbers a problem, so by what you said it isn't an issue right?

Well done you for your numbers though... I think you might need more people to compare your patterns with though.


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LittleWolf said:
I am a non diabetic

Fasting 6.7 was the last I gave you but it was 7.2 yesterday.

At one hour I'm hitting as high as 15 frequently now, 2 hours, around 10. Back to 7 ish after 4 hours then tends to just stick between 6.5 and 7 if I don't eat again.

if the point at which damage happens is 7.8, then for only 3 hours after each meal are those numbers a problem, so by what you said it isn't an issue right?

Well done you for your numbers though... I think you might need more people to compare your patterns with though.


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Thanks. If you are non-diabetic then I am really doing well!

I guess I was looking to be challenged and told I am looking at it the wrong way. Many people seem to do it meal by meal but I focussed on the daily bG, so, if I'm a bit high after, say, one meal, it shouldn't matter in the scheme of things. You're dead right about comparing patterns with others...I'll have a think about that.

Not sure what to make of 9 replies from 219 views. Doesn't seem to be much interest in my viewpoint.
 
LittleWolf said:
Can I also say that your menu looks freaking delicious. Are you a regular curry eater? Great job with the steady weight loss too x


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Thanks again. I have a restaurant curry about once a month (would be weekly if I had the money)!! I cook curries at home quite often. I use palm sugar when sweetness required, as I prefer to refined sugar on principle.

Being the one at home, I've got stuck into the cooking. I'm not brilliant .... no fine dining here. But it's amazing how something boring can be tarted up a bit. My repertoire is about 10-12 types of meal and I mix & match so it is different every night.

You've got me thinking about curry now, and I'm just cooking a fish pie! ******! Had a quarter of it with 1/2 cauliflower and bG 5.8!

Mashed potato with butter & milk, smoked haddock, cod, prawns, mushrooms, garden peas, wild garlic, chopped onion, cheese sauce, ground fennel & caraway seeds.

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