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<blockquote data-quote="Chook" data-source="post: 1488713" data-attributes="member: 24561"><p>Hello [USER=330044]@Lord Midas[/USER] </p><p></p><p>I know exactly where you're coming from. I am a Type 2 and I used to be on insulin (both basel and bolus) - and even with the insulin I used to have massive BG rises in the morning, whether I ate or not - its dawn phenomenon big style. I could go up from 16 to 28+ by mid morning especially if I skipped breakfast.</p><p></p><p>The only way I managed to come off insulin was by eating a very low carb diet and it is only recently - after 20 months of low carbing - that my dawn phenomenon is reducing. All I can say is keep at it. Keep your carbs very low, have something to eat as soon after getting up as you can (I normally have egg and bacon or two boiled eggs and a buttered Lidl protein roll) - it stops the DP rising any more and (for me) makes my BG lower all though the day because I start at a lower number. </p><p></p><p>About reducing / coming off the insulin - I know that I will have to eat a very low carb diet every day for as long as I live. My BG levels are good now but it would only take one slip up or inflammatory style illness for it to zoom back up again. It took me several months on a less than 20g a day carbs and very slowly reducing insulin to reduce my BG enough to finally stop the insulin and some of my other meds and, from what I understand, I am one of the lucky ones who were able to do this.</p><p></p><p>I hope that you, too, are one of the lucky ones. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chook, post: 1488713, member: 24561"] Hello [USER=330044]@Lord Midas[/USER] I know exactly where you're coming from. I am a Type 2 and I used to be on insulin (both basel and bolus) - and even with the insulin I used to have massive BG rises in the morning, whether I ate or not - its dawn phenomenon big style. I could go up from 16 to 28+ by mid morning especially if I skipped breakfast. The only way I managed to come off insulin was by eating a very low carb diet and it is only recently - after 20 months of low carbing - that my dawn phenomenon is reducing. All I can say is keep at it. Keep your carbs very low, have something to eat as soon after getting up as you can (I normally have egg and bacon or two boiled eggs and a buttered Lidl protein roll) - it stops the DP rising any more and (for me) makes my BG lower all though the day because I start at a lower number. About reducing / coming off the insulin - I know that I will have to eat a very low carb diet every day for as long as I live. My BG levels are good now but it would only take one slip up or inflammatory style illness for it to zoom back up again. It took me several months on a less than 20g a day carbs and very slowly reducing insulin to reduce my BG enough to finally stop the insulin and some of my other meds and, from what I understand, I am one of the lucky ones who were able to do this. I hope that you, too, are one of the lucky ones. :) :) [/QUOTE]
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