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<blockquote data-quote="FranOnTheEdge" data-source="post: 1087053" data-attributes="member: 277165"><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Wow! What lovely welcomes and what a lot of information. Thank you all so much.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">My doctor has set me up to do a 'Desmond' but it's taking a long time to get to that. (It's an all day education course for diabetics.)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I just got so fed up with waiting and waiting and waiting that I wanted to try and do something about it <strong><em>now</em></strong>.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I have not been offered any means of testing - and at the outset that puzzled me. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I understand that a test meter must have some means of piercing the skin in order to get blood to test, and I do understand that what you put that blood onto would need to be throw away, in order to keep things clean. But I've never seen one.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I have heard people in here talking about 'test strips' so I'm imagining it's like a litmus test paper strip, only for blood.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">It may be that I would be offered a test meter after or during the 'Desmond' - but it's taking so long to get to that point!</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">There was something about supplying your address and such-like for a meter when I joined this forum, I don't know if that was a draw, or what.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I also don't know if all test strips fit all meters, or if some are more expensive than others, maybe some are made of gold?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>"You may also be interested to read <a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091" target="_blank">questions to ask at a diabetic clinic"</a></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Yes, I've seen that, I'll take notes - wish I'd seen it before the clinic appointment - I'll have forgotten all about it by the time the next one comes around in a year's time - don't you just hate it when they say "have you got any questions?" and all you can answer is - "I don't know what I should be asking - I don't know what questions there <strong><em>are</em></strong> to ask."</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">It's very frustrating.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Oh, people wanted to know: I'm on slow release metformin, (and it's <strong><em>still</em></strong> giving me the squits) I was on the normal metformin, but I could hardly leave the loo on that one, so the Doc changed it to this slower controlled release one - but I still daren't go swimming! I get a few less attacks but I still never know which day I'm going to get an attack.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/finsky.269388/" target="_blank">Finsky</a></strong>,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">"<em>Well done for your weight loss!!! How's your blood sugar levels</em>? </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I have absolutely no idea, and I wish I did.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>As for the 'diabetic cook book' ...hmm...well...some of those carb ingredients might be more acceptable for type1 diabetic than type 2 who is struggling lower one's glucose levels. </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">They both talk about both types of diabetes…</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Have a look at 'low carb' section forum...and see what people are eating..you might be positively surprised <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />... </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Oh I will.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>and things is..we ARE loosing weight and maintaining good blood sugar levels.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Just a little spoiler...imagine enjoying cream, butter, proper cheese, nice meat without going for dry fatless cuts etc etc.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite13" alt=":angelic:" title="Angelic :angelic:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":angelic:" /></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Ooooh, (apart from the meat part – not a fan of red meats.)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>You don't need slimming world anymore....you can have US now.."<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Lol! Thanks, I'm glad to have found you.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/collieboy.26127/" target="_blank">CollieBoy</a> <em>Type 2 · Legend</em> </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Welcome, congratulations on the weight loss.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Thank you, I was amazed when I worked it out. My husband kept saying I'd lost some, but I couldn't feel it myself, or I'd tell myself it was just imagination – I certainly don't <strong>look</strong> any different.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Ihave moved onto a Higher Fat Low carb diet, which has cut my BGs/HbA1c fairly well,</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Sorry, I don't know what "<em> BGs/HbA1c" </em>means. But the higher fat low carb part sounds interesting, although I will be upset if I have to give up my wholemeal toast or potatoes, kidney beans and rice. Still, I've given up a lot of other things, why not my remaining joys as well? (depressed expression.)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>and the way I use recipe books is for inspiration</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Oh I do that too, I recently amalgamated two recipes into one, and made "Baby Pots and Toms with Paprika Prawns" – all done in my AirFryer, which I am trying to use more.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>and recipes checked by BG meter. i have tried to cut back on carbohydrates, substituting nut flours </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Nut flours? I've never heard of those before.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>and non carby veg. </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Dwarf green beans, leeks, cabbage, peas, carrots, asparagus, spring onions, brussels, spinach, sweetcorn, stuff like that?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Fats I try to restrict to healthy versions (nut oils, fish oils, butter etc)</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I really hated giving up butter – in fact I hated it so much – I'd cheat occasionally, alright, almost every day: wm toast and butter, although I did try and put less butter on the toast.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">In Slimming World you are supposed to have huge breakfasts and although I like those, I just can't face it every day.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>note higher fat does not mean chewing sticks of lard just natural levels in yogourt & milk.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>The higher fat means I don't get the hunger from the low fat foods and get the full flavour & miss the carb additions usually substituted into low fat to replace the fat.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>I found 'Eat Fat' by Dr Trudi Deakin to be very informative.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Right, I'll research that. Thanks.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/britishpub.175573/" target="_blank">britishpub</a>,</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>I think you will find those Cookbooks you refer to are not aimed at Type 2's who are controlling the disease by Diet.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">If you say so. I don't know… they seem to be talking about both types though. Shrug.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><u>Bulkbiker</u>,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Hi Fran</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Hi Mark,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>I'll tag <a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/25759/" target="_blank">@daisy1</a> for the info sheet on Type 2 which you might find very interesting.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Thanks, turns out I've already read that, but this link means I can find it more easily.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>A lot of us follow a low carb diet here with which we have had much success both in weight loss and blood sugar control. Have a look at what Daisy posts then have a read around on the low carb forum on this site as well as the success story thread. You will find lots of very helpful info and some great support too. If you have any questions after your read then just ask.. we don't bite.. well rarely anyway.. You have some to a friendly supportive place where you can hopefully learn how to help yourself. </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>All the best</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Mark</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Thanks Mark, I'll pop over and have a good read on all that.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/klangley.208425/" target="_blank">Klangley</a> <em>Type 2 · Regular</em> </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Welcome to the forum <a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/277165/" target="_blank">@FranOnTheEdge</a>. Losing weight is very important for most T2s. Congratulations on your absolutely fantastic results. </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Thank you, I just hope I can keep it up. I need to, I've got a lot more I need to loose.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>I could never loose weight on a traditional old-school diet regime. I genuinely admire your dedication. </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">It's certainly not been easy, so thank you.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>I couldn't give up my Cheese, butter, olives, a decent rib-eye steak, a glass or 2 of red wine etc.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Cheese! I gave that up, sob! SW lets you have "reduced fat cheddar"… what's the point? there's very little taste in it, you need the strongest cheddar you can find to cook with.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Can't have red wine because of the metformin - I miss that too. I cheat on butter.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Weight and Blood Sugar levels (for most T2 diabetics) normally travel in the same direction, but weight is only part of the problem. The real problem is sugar/carbohydrate. A lot of Low Fat 'diet' products compensate by adding sugar. Sugar is the cheapest flavour enhancer available to producers and most of us have been conditioned from childhood to have a sweet tooth. I avoid diet products </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Since trying to loose weight, I've bought a few of those, but mostly I make my own food in large batches and eat one portion while freezing the rest – it's stood me in good stead while I've been ill with flu and tonsilitis, and unwilling to do anything very much.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I cook with frylight and add sweetener instead of sugar to balance the often too sharp tinned and cartonized tomatoes.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I've got: <strong>Chicken and Veg Soup, Turkey Bolognaise, Sweet and Sour Chicken, Chilli Con Carné,</strong> (sans chilli, cos I don't like hot N spicy.) And a failed but still nice M<strong>akhani Chicken Curry</strong>. (again no chillis)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>and follow a LCHF diet (Low Carb Healthy Fat). We started dieting at the same time, Spetember. My weight loss has not been as spectacular as yours but I have never been hungry,</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Gawd, I have!</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>never had a serious craving</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Just chocolate.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>and never felt deprived.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I have. Often.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>I will happily be continuing this regime for life.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Continuing, yeah, dunno about 'happily' though. (I'm talking about the SW diet, there.)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Of course it is entirely possible that you may be able to say the same and are enjoying the regime you have found. </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Nope. 'Managing' is about what I'd say.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>If so great, but in any case this LCHF thing is certainly worth looking into. It would be interesting to know how your Blood Sugar levels have responded since September.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Wouldn't it just!</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Incidentally the problem with diabetic cookbooks is that anyone can write one <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. Personally as a T2, I would not buy a book authored by anyone who hasn't also been a T2 and managed to control their condition by diet. There is such a lot of misunderstand and false wisdom out there (including within the NHS). Buy a monitor and find out what recipes or ingredients work for you.....eat, test, adjust, repeat. </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Yes, it's looking like I might have to, are they very expensive?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>Good luck and welcome to this forum. A genuinely helpful and friendly bunch.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Thank you, people have been very welcoming to me. Gives you a nice warm feeling.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/pinkorchid.166283/" target="_blank">Pinkorchid</a> <em>Type 2 · Regular</em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><em>I know a lot diabetics do swear by Slimming World there are about 3 in my daughters SW group and they say they are doing really well. It depends what suits us as individuals really </em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">There are none in the group I attend, I've seen a fair few pop out of the woodwork online when I asked about it, but that's it.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/zand.85197/" target="_blank">zand</a> <em>Type 2 · Champion</em> </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><em>The big problem with Slimming World long term is that they push this low fat message. Short term it isn't a problem, of course it helps you to lose weight, you are reducing calorie intake.. Longer term it isn't good for anyone, diabetic or not. We need fats to stay healthy. The problems of a low fat diet can take many years to manifest.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Oh. I didn't know that.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/daisy1.25759/" target="_blank">daisy1</a> <em>Type 2 · Moderator</em> </strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I won't copy everything you've posted, instead I'll just say, "thanks." I did read it when I first found the forum, but nice to have the opportunity to read it again.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FranOnTheEdge, post: 1087053, member: 277165"] [SIZE=4] Wow! What lovely welcomes and what a lot of information. Thank you all so much. My doctor has set me up to do a 'Desmond' but it's taking a long time to get to that. (It's an all day education course for diabetics.) I just got so fed up with waiting and waiting and waiting that I wanted to try and do something about it [B][I]now[/I][/B]. I have not been offered any means of testing - and at the outset that puzzled me. I understand that a test meter must have some means of piercing the skin in order to get blood to test, and I do understand that what you put that blood onto would need to be throw away, in order to keep things clean. But I've never seen one. I have heard people in here talking about 'test strips' so I'm imagining it's like a litmus test paper strip, only for blood. It may be that I would be offered a test meter after or during the 'Desmond' - but it's taking so long to get to that point! There was something about supplying your address and such-like for a meter when I joined this forum, I don't know if that was a draw, or what. I also don't know if all test strips fit all meters, or if some are more expensive than others, maybe some are made of gold? [I]"You may also be interested to read [URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091']questions to ask at a diabetic clinic"[/URL][/I] Yes, I've seen that, I'll take notes - wish I'd seen it before the clinic appointment - I'll have forgotten all about it by the time the next one comes around in a year's time - don't you just hate it when they say "have you got any questions?" and all you can answer is - "I don't know what I should be asking - I don't know what questions there [B][I]are[/I][/B] to ask." It's very frustrating. Oh, people wanted to know: I'm on slow release metformin, (and it's [B][I]still[/I][/B] giving me the squits) I was on the normal metformin, but I could hardly leave the loo on that one, so the Doc changed it to this slower controlled release one - but I still daren't go swimming! I get a few less attacks but I still never know which day I'm going to get an attack. [B][URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/finsky.269388/']Finsky[/URL][/B], "[I]Well done for your weight loss!!! How's your blood sugar levels[/I]? I have absolutely no idea, and I wish I did. [I]As for the 'diabetic cook book' ...hmm...well...some of those carb ingredients might be more acceptable for type1 diabetic than type 2 who is struggling lower one's glucose levels. [/I] They both talk about both types of diabetes… [I]Have a look at 'low carb' section forum...and see what people are eating..you might be positively surprised ;)... [/I] Oh I will. [I]and things is..we ARE loosing weight and maintaining good blood sugar levels.[/I] [I]Just a little spoiler...imagine enjoying cream, butter, proper cheese, nice meat without going for dry fatless cuts etc etc.:angelic:[/I] Ooooh, (apart from the meat part – not a fan of red meats.) [I]You don't need slimming world anymore....you can have US now..":D[/I] Lol! Thanks, I'm glad to have found you. [SIZE=4][B][URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/collieboy.26127/']CollieBoy[/URL] [I]Type 2 · Legend[/I] [/B][/SIZE] [I]Welcome, congratulations on the weight loss.[/I] Thank you, I was amazed when I worked it out. My husband kept saying I'd lost some, but I couldn't feel it myself, or I'd tell myself it was just imagination – I certainly don't [B]look[/B] any different.[/SIZE] [SIZE=4][I]Ihave moved onto a Higher Fat Low carb diet, which has cut my BGs/HbA1c fairly well,[/I] Sorry, I don't know what "[I] BGs/HbA1c" [/I]means. But the higher fat low carb part sounds interesting, although I will be upset if I have to give up my wholemeal toast or potatoes, kidney beans and rice. Still, I've given up a lot of other things, why not my remaining joys as well? (depressed expression.) [I]and the way I use recipe books is for inspiration[/I] Oh I do that too, I recently amalgamated two recipes into one, and made "Baby Pots and Toms with Paprika Prawns" – all done in my AirFryer, which I am trying to use more. [I]and recipes checked by BG meter. i have tried to cut back on carbohydrates, substituting nut flours [/I] Nut flours? I've never heard of those before. [I]and non carby veg. [/I] Dwarf green beans, leeks, cabbage, peas, carrots, asparagus, spring onions, brussels, spinach, sweetcorn, stuff like that? [I]Fats I try to restrict to healthy versions (nut oils, fish oils, butter etc)[/I] I really hated giving up butter – in fact I hated it so much – I'd cheat occasionally, alright, almost every day: wm toast and butter, although I did try and put less butter on the toast. In Slimming World you are supposed to have huge breakfasts and although I like those, I just can't face it every day. [I]note higher fat does not mean chewing sticks of lard just natural levels in yogourt & milk.[/I] [I]The higher fat means I don't get the hunger from the low fat foods and get the full flavour & miss the carb additions usually substituted into low fat to replace the fat.[/I] [I]I found 'Eat Fat' by Dr Trudi Deakin to be very informative.[/I] Right, I'll research that. Thanks. [I][URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/britishpub.175573/']britishpub[/URL],[/I] [I]I think you will find those Cookbooks you refer to are not aimed at Type 2's who are controlling the disease by Diet.[/I] If you say so. I don't know… they seem to be talking about both types though. Shrug. [U]Bulkbiker[/U], [I]Hi Fran[/I] Hi Mark, [I]I'll tag [URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/25759/']@daisy1[/URL] for the info sheet on Type 2 which you might find very interesting.[/I] Thanks, turns out I've already read that, but this link means I can find it more easily. [I]A lot of us follow a low carb diet here with which we have had much success both in weight loss and blood sugar control. Have a look at what Daisy posts then have a read around on the low carb forum on this site as well as the success story thread. You will find lots of very helpful info and some great support too. If you have any questions after your read then just ask.. we don't bite.. well rarely anyway.. You have some to a friendly supportive place where you can hopefully learn how to help yourself. [/I] [I]All the best[/I] [I]Mark[/I] Thanks Mark, I'll pop over and have a good read on all that. [SIZE=4][B][URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/klangley.208425/']Klangley[/URL] [I]Type 2 · Regular[/I] [/B][/SIZE] [I]Welcome to the forum [URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/277165/']@FranOnTheEdge[/URL]. Losing weight is very important for most T2s. Congratulations on your absolutely fantastic results. [/I] Thank you, I just hope I can keep it up. I need to, I've got a lot more I need to loose. [I]I could never loose weight on a traditional old-school diet regime. I genuinely admire your dedication. [/I] It's certainly not been easy, so thank you. [I]I couldn't give up my Cheese, butter, olives, a decent rib-eye steak, a glass or 2 of red wine etc.[/I] Cheese! I gave that up, sob! SW lets you have "reduced fat cheddar"… what's the point? there's very little taste in it, you need the strongest cheddar you can find to cook with. Can't have red wine because of the metformin - I miss that too. I cheat on butter.[/SIZE] [SIZE=4][I][/I] [I]Weight and Blood Sugar levels (for most T2 diabetics) normally travel in the same direction, but weight is only part of the problem. The real problem is sugar/carbohydrate. A lot of Low Fat 'diet' products compensate by adding sugar. Sugar is the cheapest flavour enhancer available to producers and most of us have been conditioned from childhood to have a sweet tooth. I avoid diet products [/I] Since trying to loose weight, I've bought a few of those, but mostly I make my own food in large batches and eat one portion while freezing the rest – it's stood me in good stead while I've been ill with flu and tonsilitis, and unwilling to do anything very much. I cook with frylight and add sweetener instead of sugar to balance the often too sharp tinned and cartonized tomatoes. I've got: [B]Chicken and Veg Soup, Turkey Bolognaise, Sweet and Sour Chicken, Chilli Con Carné,[/B] (sans chilli, cos I don't like hot N spicy.) And a failed but still nice M[B]akhani Chicken Curry[/B]. (again no chillis) [I]and follow a LCHF diet (Low Carb Healthy Fat). We started dieting at the same time, Spetember. My weight loss has not been as spectacular as yours but I have never been hungry,[/I] Gawd, I have! [I]never had a serious craving[/I] Just chocolate. [I]and never felt deprived.[/I] I have. Often. [I]I will happily be continuing this regime for life.[/I] Continuing, yeah, dunno about 'happily' though. (I'm talking about the SW diet, there.) [I]Of course it is entirely possible that you may be able to say the same and are enjoying the regime you have found. [/I] Nope. 'Managing' is about what I'd say. [I]If so great, but in any case this LCHF thing is certainly worth looking into. It would be interesting to know how your Blood Sugar levels have responded since September.[/I] Wouldn't it just! [I][/I] [I]Incidentally the problem with diabetic cookbooks is that anyone can write one :). Personally as a T2, I would not buy a book authored by anyone who hasn't also been a T2 and managed to control their condition by diet. There is such a lot of misunderstand and false wisdom out there (including within the NHS). Buy a monitor and find out what recipes or ingredients work for you.....eat, test, adjust, repeat. [/I] Yes, it's looking like I might have to, are they very expensive? [I][/I] [I]Good luck and welcome to this forum. A genuinely helpful and friendly bunch.[/I] Thank you, people have been very welcoming to me. Gives you a nice warm feeling. [SIZE=4][B][URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/pinkorchid.166283/']Pinkorchid[/URL] [I]Type 2 · Regular[/I][/B] [B][I]I know a lot diabetics do swear by Slimming World there are about 3 in my daughters SW group and they say they are doing really well. It depends what suits us as individuals really [/I][/B][/SIZE] There are none in the group I attend, I've seen a fair few pop out of the woodwork online when I asked about it, but that's it. [SIZE=4][B][URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/zand.85197/']zand[/URL] [I]Type 2 · Champion[/I] [/B][/SIZE] [I]The big problem with Slimming World long term is that they push this low fat message. Short term it isn't a problem, of course it helps you to lose weight, you are reducing calorie intake.. Longer term it isn't good for anyone, diabetic or not. We need fats to stay healthy. The problems of a low fat diet can take many years to manifest.[/I] Oh. I didn't know that. [SIZE=4][B][URL='http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/members/daisy1.25759/']daisy1[/URL] [I]Type 2 · Moderator[/I] [/B][/SIZE] I won't copy everything you've posted, instead I'll just say, "thanks." I did read it when I first found the forum, but nice to have the opportunity to read it again. [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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