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stevie2065

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Location
n ireland
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi guys i was diagnosed on monday with diabetes type 2 as a result from a glucose tolerance test in hostpital which was 13, i had 4 fasting blood tests at my local doctors surgery over the months before this test and the doc said all was normal and nothing to worry about, then on monday i received the results from the hostpital saying that i was diabetic and should start metformin 500mgs twice a day so i went to see the my doctor and he went through all my results from the other tests and 2 were 43 mmol and 2 were 47mmol, he said your not diagnosed with type 2 until the test is 48 mmol , i cant figure these reading out can someone share some light on this for me please, also not once did he tell me after each test that i was prediabetes which has annoyed me also, regards stephen
 
Hi guys i was diagnosed on monday with diabetes type 2 as a result from a glucose tolerance test in hostpital which was 13, i had 4 fasting blood tests at my local doctors surgery over the months before this test and the doc said all was normal and nothing to worry about, then on monday i received the results from the hostpital saying that i was diabetic and should start metformin 500mgs twice a day so i went to see the my doctor and he went through all my results from the other tests and 2 were 43 mmol and 2 were 47mmol, he said your not diagnosed with type 2 until the test is 48 mmol , i cant figure these reading out can someone share some light on this for me please, also not once did he tell me after each test that i was prediabetes which has annoyed me also, regards stephen
Hi Stephen, You have come to the right place for information, advice, support and understanding with fellow Diabetics. I have been diagnosed as Type 2 since 2000 and recently joined this group (late last year) and I'm amazed as to how much information I've received in a few weeks! Best of luck with your Diabetes management and have a great 2015!!!!:)
 
Your OGTT at hospital is more than 11 which is the level at which diabetes is diagnosed.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/oral-glucose-tolerance-test.html

The blood tests at your doctor's surgery look like Hba1c results although I am not sure why the doctor persisted with these when declaring the patient as non-diabetic.. The numbers do indicate pre-diabetes but for whatever reason your doctor seems to have decided not to act on them.

An Hba1c of 48 would result in a diagnosis of diabetes.
 
Hi. How confusing. Your HBa1C in old money is just under 6.5% which is certainly pre-diabetic. I try to keep my level below this by my medication and low-carb diet. If you have excess weight then do have a low-carb diet and your BS will move down. If your weight is normal, still low-carb but get hold of a meter and you may need to see the GP in the future for some medication
 
Hi and welcome.

You should have been told you were pre-diabetic so you could start to do something about it before becoming full blown type 2, but it would appear it is now too late.

Anyway, you are here now, and couldn't be in a better place for information and support.

What is next for you as regards blood tests or appointments? Have you been referred to a nurse?

Please have a good read round the forum, and ask any questions you like. @daisy1 will be along soon with some general information for newbies.
 
PS. I suggest you ask for a print out of all your blood test results. You are entitled to these. It is much better to have them to hand so you can research at leisure, and you will need them for future comparisons.
 
@stevie2065

Hello Stephen and welcome to the forum :)

I am pleased to see that you have received some good advice from members already. To add to this, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask all the questions you feel you need to and someone will be able help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome.

You should have been told you were pre-diabetic so you could start to do something about it before becoming full blown type 2, but it would appear it is now too late.

Anyway, you are here now, and couldn't be in a better place for information and support.

What is next for you as regards blood tests or appointments? Have you been referred to a nurse?

Please have a good read round the forum, and ask any questions you like. @daisy1 will be along soon with some general information for newbies.
hi Daisy, i was just given a sheet to take home and read about diabetes and a prescription for metformin and told to take one a day for the first week and then 2 a day from then on in, he told me he would refer me to a diabetes clinic and got the nurse to take 3 viles of blood from my arm, he didnt say what they were for, i asked to see my results from the 4 diabetes tests and he sayed the were43 for the first 2 and 47 for the second, but when i asked him on the 4 occasions when the tests were done he told me everything has come back normal, i then asked him to refer me to a rheumatologist and he said there was nothing in the blood tests to suggest there was an autoimmune condition, im gutted, if i had known i was prediabetic i would have acted fast, im 6ft and 17 stones, 35 waist and used to bodybuild so i carry the weight well, i dont have a sweet tooth either, never smoked in my life and i take a drink once a month so i never in a million years thought of having diabetes, i started getting crawling sensations on my temples about 3 years ago and then the skin on the temples seemed to wrinkle and look waxy, i went to him and he tried to tell me it was acne scarring, i never had acne on mt, temples in my life, then the skin on the inside of my arms started to wrinkle to and he said it was celluite, now ive tested positive for diabetes, im really confused as what to do next as im hitting a brink wall with this doctor, regards stephen
 
Try not to panic or worry. I know it is hard, but trust me, things get easier quicker than you think. This forum and its members will help you and support you. Diabetes is random. You don't have to be fat or unhealthy to get it. Overweight people are more prone to it, but thin healthy people also get it. So don't look for reasons why. You will never know. Best just to accept it and start to control it before it controls you.

I suggest you ring your GP's receptionist and ask for print outs of all these past blood tests and the latest ones. With 3 vials full it sounds like he is checking liver and kidney functions, a full blood count, cholesterol, and another HbA1c. You need these print outs for your own benefit, and for future comparisons. You are entitled to these.

Have a good read of Daisy's post, and read round these forums about suitable eating plans. Diet is the key. You can't rely on medication alone - it may help, but only if you are eating the right diet. Carbohydrates are the main culprits and need to be cut down, and we also need to be careful with milk and fruit. The main carb culprits are bread, pasta, rice, cereals and potatoes. Carbs convert to glucose once in the system, so basically, carbs = sugar.

I suggest you get yourself a glucose meter. This is an essential tool in learning which foods your body can or can't cope with, and in what quantities.

Take some deep breaths, and come back with any questions. Good luck!
 
Try not to panic or worry. I know it is hard, but trust me, things get easier quicker than you think. This forum and its members will help you and support you. Diabetes is random. You don't have to be fat or unhealthy to get it. Overweight people are more prone to it, but thin healthy people also get it. So don't look for reasons why. You will never know. Best just to accept it and start to control it before it controls you.

I suggest you ring your GP's receptionist and ask for print outs of all these past blood tests and the latest ones. With 3 vials full it sounds like he is checking liver and kidney functions, a full blood count, cholesterol, and another HbA1c. You need these print outs for your own benefit, and for future comparisons. You are entitled to these.

Have a good read of Daisy's post, and read round these forums about suitable eating plans. Diet is the key. You can't rely on medication alone - it may help, but only if you are eating the right diet. Carbohydrates are the main culprits and need to be cut down, and we also need to be careful with milk and fruit. The main carb culprits are bread, pasta, rice, cereals and potatoes. Carbs convert to glucose once in the system, so basically, carbs = sugar.

I suggest you get yourself a glucose meter. This is an essential tool in learning which foods your body can or can't cope with, and in what quantities.

Take some deep breaths, and come back with any questions. Good luck!
cheers bluetit, really appreciate your advice, i will ask for a full print out on monday, i have cut out most of these, im practically living on chicked, fish veg and apples plus lean meat like steak, drinking water and have cut out sugar and salt and milk, im using soya milk, im not panicking i just feel let down by the gp, he seems oblivious to my concerns, i told him about the skin crawling and burning to my fingers and toes plus my stomach gurgling at nite for the last 6 month non stop and now blurred vision in my left eye but he doesnt seem concerned
 
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