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Corn Flakes!

Discussion in 'Food, Nutrition and Recipes' started by Isobel94, May 26, 2013.

  1. Isobel94

    Isobel94 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,

    Has anybody else been having issues with corn flakes? Is there anything in them I may not be aware of? I read the box and the carb levels seemed on par with what I would usually have in the morning aka two Weetabix with milk. They're the Tesco brand. I had the Kellog's ones before and my levels were fine, but the past couple of mornings I tested my sugars two hours after breakfast and they were in the teens! Before breakfast my sugar levels were within range (one morning was around 7 mmol/l and the next was 5.9 mmol/l)

    And I really like corn flakes! :(


    Izzy.
     
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    #1 Isobel94, May 26, 2013 at 11:25 PM
  2. garythegob

    garythegob · Well-Known Member

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    how much are you eating, don't forget, the recommended amount is 30g of cornflakes with 125ml of semi skimmed milk

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    #2 garythegob, May 27, 2013 at 7:04 AM
  3. Isobel94

    Isobel94 · Well-Known Member

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    I'd fill the bowl to about half, and these are smallish bowls, and I would have full fat milk.

    The thing is that I had the Kellog's before and was fine... I would just have my 6 units of Novorapid and I would be covered. See I had to have them once because I was staying at an aunt's and that was the plainest thing I saw in the cupboard :p Oh the joys of not having a diabetic in the house...

    Perhaps I will trying measuring on a scales but I just don't trust those cornflakes at this stage...
     
    #3 Isobel94, May 27, 2013 at 10:49 PM
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    pav Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Its a cereal I now have to rule out of what I can eat, a few weeks ago I tried some with rice crispies and BS went sky high, was not sure if one or both were the problem. Tonight as the tea I did was uneatable thought I would try a some with the hint of semi skimmed milk, 2 hours later BS is 13.4. :(

    This is getting to be a right pain, and starting to get very limiting on what I can and can't eat, my emergency reserve of cereals that I like when tea is a flop has now been wiped off the menu.
     
    #4 pav, May 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM
  5. Hooked

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    Perhaps the problem is coming from the lack of fibre in the cornflakes, your usual weetabix would contain more fibre and slow down the aborbsion of carbs into your bloodstream.
     
    #5 Hooked, May 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM
  6. Isobel94

    Isobel94 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi thank you all for your suggestions

    I have figured out that for some reason I have had to increase my insulin dose as I have been having the same problem with the Weetabix as well. I have had to double my insulin dose from 6 units novorapid to 12 units, and that seems to be working well for me now. I was a 9 one hour after my breakfast today, so roughly on target, and I was 4 the morning before one hour after breakfast.

    Beats me... seems like I get into a good routine and then something like this happens to completely throw me off... my sites are all good too...

    Thanks again,

    Izzy.
     
    #6 Isobel94, May 31, 2013 at 10:10 PM
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    2131tom Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I wish I'd found this post when I got up this morning. I'm newly diagnosed and finding my way through it all. This morning I thought I'd have a bowl of rice crispies with skimmed milk. 90 mins later at work I checked my BS - 14.0. What? Can't be. Second test confirmed it. Down to 6.9 by 13:30 hrs (after lunch) and 5.4 this evening (before tea).

    Pop goes the snap and crackle from now on but Weetabix seems OK, so all's not lost.
     
    #7 2131tom, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:37 PM
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    Watch the weetabix for some strange reason they used to send my BS really low and I would have a hypo every time
    Good luck


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    #8 Netty70, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:26 PM
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    2131tom Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    #9 2131tom, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:36 PM
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    Yep that's all you can do, my medication doesn't help me either as it does cause hypos grrrrrr
    Good luck


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    #10 Netty70, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:41 PM
  11. mrman

    mrman Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Tom, how long did toy inject.before eating? Of you had a good level before eating and was 6 after 4ish hours the dose is right, but, timing not. I find especially on the morning having a breakfast like weetabix and toast carbs but very little fat you will get what you experienced. Only for breakfast I now inject 1 hour before eating to match the.insulin peak with the quick absorption rate of the weetabix/milk/toast. 2 hours after injecting (1 hour after eating breakfast) am usually 7~8, without the nasty drop after.

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    #11 mrman, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:42 PM
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    2131tom Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, Brett. I missed your post initially.

    I should have made it clearer that I'm T2 so I don't use insulin and was controlling with diet and exercise only. Since Thursday, however, I've been prescribed 1000mg Metformin and I'm now looking to see how I get on with that. Not sure how long it takes to kick in so I'll reserve judgement.

    I'm slowly finding out which foods affect me and which don't. As everyone here seems to have discovered, it's a very steep learning curve.
     
    #12 2131tom, Oct 20, 2013 at 6:25 PM
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    paul-1976 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Just my opinion of course but most non insulin dependant diabetics would find cornflakes an unsuitable choice for breakfast-the carb content is similar to that of a mars or snickers bar which I'm sure most diabetics would not eat for breakfast.
     
    #13 paul-1976, Oct 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM
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    Agreed. Most breakfast cereals are like 60-70g carbs per 100g and send me into the teens. For those of us not on insulin the only thing we can do to fix that is... Just not eat stuff :(

    But on the other hand, I cant stand the thought of needles whether I ate or not.


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    #14 LittleWolf, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM
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    mrman Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    A hard one even if using insulin to control properly.

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    #15 mrman, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM
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    The more carbs eaten, the more insulin you need and the bigger margin for error there is, am I right? Like of you miscalculate at higher doses needed to cover super carby things the higher the risk of things going south..


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    #16 LittleWolf, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:13 AM
  17. mrman

    mrman Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Yes and no lol, obviously you are right in saying the hightr the dose the more margin of error, but, once ratios are tried and tested and correct, its more of a timing issue. Especially, with bigger meals and also low gi foods the important thing is to inject at the right time so the insulin peaks the same time as the food.

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    #17 mrman, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:16 AM
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