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<blockquote data-quote="Max68" data-source="post: 2342777" data-attributes="member: 521172"><p>Can never understand this callous "well, they would have died anyway" theory. How does one know, you can't. Dementia patients like my mum or others of a certain age in care can live for years and if someone dies of Covid in care they are taken before their time pure and simple. Whether it's by a day, month, year or ten years it doesn't matter, Covid ends a life before something else does! What about younger people who have died from Covid? What if these vaccines are full of poison and kill 60,000 people? Would people just mumble "Well they would have died anyway?!" In my opinion it's a pointless callous argument that cannot be proved and Zand puts it perfectly above and sadly this ridiculous phrase is massively disrespectful to people like Zand.</p><p></p><p>I may have mentioned this before but I can't remember but my thoughts on vaccines is this. I lost most of my hearing when I was a kid as a side effect of the whooping cough vaccine. A little girl who lived down the road who was a friend died of whooping cough. The families religion didn't cater for vaccines. I'm deaf but thankfully still here, sadly she is not. I'm male, not skinny and diabetic so I'll take my chances with the vaccine rather than the virus. If it's proved that the vaccine also stops you passing on the virus then I'll happily take it again to protect other people. It's a no brainer in my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Max68, post: 2342777, member: 521172"] Can never understand this callous "well, they would have died anyway" theory. How does one know, you can't. Dementia patients like my mum or others of a certain age in care can live for years and if someone dies of Covid in care they are taken before their time pure and simple. Whether it's by a day, month, year or ten years it doesn't matter, Covid ends a life before something else does! What about younger people who have died from Covid? What if these vaccines are full of poison and kill 60,000 people? Would people just mumble "Well they would have died anyway?!" In my opinion it's a pointless callous argument that cannot be proved and Zand puts it perfectly above and sadly this ridiculous phrase is massively disrespectful to people like Zand. I may have mentioned this before but I can't remember but my thoughts on vaccines is this. I lost most of my hearing when I was a kid as a side effect of the whooping cough vaccine. A little girl who lived down the road who was a friend died of whooping cough. The families religion didn't cater for vaccines. I'm deaf but thankfully still here, sadly she is not. I'm male, not skinny and diabetic so I'll take my chances with the vaccine rather than the virus. If it's proved that the vaccine also stops you passing on the virus then I'll happily take it again to protect other people. It's a no brainer in my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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