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Creatine and Diabetes

mfactor

mfactor

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Location
Hereford
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
In case you dont know...............


http://www.menshealth.com/health/creatine-side-effects-what-it-what-it-does





Just out of interest for lifters :) and other athletes on here....


Have not used creatine for many years but thought I might try it again (one of the few supplements that seems to actually work).............


So thought I would check if it was ok for Diabetics and it seemed as the answer was no or yes or maybe :banghead::) after a quick google.....


But then found these http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/741355 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20881878

and this...http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20976468



So going to try a cycle , no loading just 4 grams a day


Comments welcome....
 
hmm, seems not so useful for me as an endurance monkey, also seems to require quite a bit of carbs to go with it to fully metabolise it. Not particularly useful on a low carb and low GI diet.
 
List of supplements I take:
3g Creatine monohydrate
3g L-Glutamine
3g BCAA powder (leucine, isoleucine, valine)
2g fish oil capsules
500mg vitamin c
Daily basic multi-vitamin
Optimum gold standard Whey protein (half scoop before and after my workouts)

Does it all work? Debatable
Is it worth the money? Debatable
Do I plan to keep taking it either way? Yes

Contrary to how it may seem, I'm not a big fan of supplements. Just as their name suggests they "supplement" a diet that isn't perfect. However, I'm not aware of anyone who has the perfect diet, and I'm certainly no exception.

It costs me about $10usd/month to buy everything on the list above. To me, that's worth it based on the possibility that I might have a deficiency in one of those areas. I spend A LOT of time in the gym and the last thing I want is for that hard work to be wasted. $10/month is basically my "diet/workout insurance"
 
TorqPenderloin said:
List of supplements I take:
3g Creatine monohydrate
3g L-Glutamine
3g BCAA powder (leucine, isoleucine, valine)
2g fish oil capsules
500mg vitamin c
Daily basic multi-vitamin
Optimum gold standard Whey protein (half scoop before and after my workouts)

Does it all work? Debatable
Is it worth the money? Debatable
Do I plan to keep taking it either way? Yes

Contrary to how it may seem, I'm not a big fan of supplements. Just as their name suggests they "supplement" a diet that isn't perfect. However, I'm not aware of anyone who has the perfect diet, and I'm certainly no exception.

It costs me about $10usd/month to buy everything on the list above. To me, that's worth it based on the possibility that I might have a deficiency in one of those areas. I spend A LOT of time in the gym and the last thing I want is for that hard work to be wasted. $10/month is basically my "diet/workout insurance"
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Pretty much the same list as me except I take a more comprehensive multivit at the moment (animalpak type thing) + vit D and B12.........but no BCAAs , but the list varies :) but always take the fish oil , multivits and protein powder...........

and for the exact same reasons, I am of the "best take it and not need it than not take it and need it" school of thought...:)


Like you I think they probably dont do much (some) but for a small outlay its worth it........


And thats after I watched a brilliant BBC program a few years back that debunked most of them........:)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18863293
 
I don't take any, try to just get a reasonably healthy balanced diet with macro and micro nutrients.

Tried glucosamine for a while for my knees, but found that yoga was much better at dealing with the underlying issues.
 
mfactor said:
In case you dont know...............


http://www.menshealth.com/health/creatine-side-effects-what-it-what-it-does





Just out of interest for lifters :) and other athletes on here....


Have not used creatine for many years but thought I might try it again (one of the few supplements that seems to actually work).............


So thought I would check if it was ok for Diabetics and it seemed as the answer was no or yes or maybe :banghead::) after a quick google.....


But then found these http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/741355 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20881878

and this...http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20976468



So going to try a cycle , no loading just 4 grams a day


Comments welcome....
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Hi. Seeing the word 'creatine' took me back. It certainly worked for me, but then I even responded to ventalin when I became asthmatic in my 20's. My plan is to get the weight down before Christmas and then get back on the weights and rebuild - I want to see where I can take it. In 1986 I was runner up west of England Intermediates (EFBB) 3 weeks later car crash - broken leg, game changer. But I used Creatine in the early 2000's and it is incredible. I swear - I added weight to the bar in every single work out - without fail.It's next year's challenge. Tim Belknap did it as a diabetic, so can I 9but I wont compete again - carb depletion and all that paranoia - no thanks not at my age. Keep in touch and let me know how it's going
 
Sean01 said:
Hi. Seeing the word 'creatine' took me back. It certainly worked for me, but then I even responded to ventalin when I became asthmatic in my 20's. My plan is to get the weight down before Christmas and then get back on the weights and rebuild - I want to see where I can take it. In 1986 I was runner up west of England Intermediates (EFBB) 3 weeks later car crash - broken leg, game changer. But I used Creatine in the early 2000's and it is incredible. I swear - I added weight to the bar in every single work out - without fail.It's next year's challenge. Tim Belknap did it as a diabetic, so can I 9but I wont compete again - carb depletion and all that paranoia - no thanks not at my age. Keep in touch and let me know how it's going
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Yep it was one of the few supps that I could tell the difference with (for whatever reason) , as you said weights went up every workout, but I did seem to have a side effect, nothing major just needed to pee a lot :) and as I drove for a living it was a pain.........

Using a lower dose (no loading) than I planed (3 gram per day) as read some stuff :) ...

1) A lower dose stops the water weight gain

and

2) The usual dose is too high for most.... http://www.doescreatineworkblog.com/creatine-dosage/

ATB
 
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